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Novak Djokovic's visa cancelled, tennis player to be deported

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-14/novak-djokovic-visa-cancellation-decision-immigration-minister/100748386
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u/01infinite 8d ago Silver Helpful

This has been such a back and forth story, if only there was some kind of sports metaphor to go with it.

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u/Adrian-Frasineanu 7d ago

you must be reffering to ping-pong

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u/RedditUserings 8d ago Silver Wholesome Seal of Approval

Hope at least some of this has been captured on Nothing to Declare

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u/voidspace021 8d ago Silver Helpful Starry

It’s called Border Security here. Can’t get enough of that show

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u/TheDustOfMen 8d ago

Same here, I love it. Also because Australia is known for being strict yet so many people try to smuggle weird stuff into the country and act all surprised when, no, they can't just import animal parts for the heck of it.

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u/fernguts 8d ago Silver Helpful Eureka!

"Yeah, but you can't buy half-decent pickled alpaca-penis anywhere in Australia, and it's my son's favourite!"

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u/Something_Again 8d ago

Dill or half-sour?

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u/thizface 8d ago

oh, i cant smuggle in 200 pounds of cigarettes and frozen zebra dicks?? what is it with you people, i thought this was america

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u/TooRedditFamous 8d ago edited 8d ago Table Slap

Djok caught smuggling in undeclared vegetables and small animals in his suitcase from South easy Asia

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u/TheScrobber 8d ago

He tried bringing in a Live Laugh Love wooden sign and wouldn't pay to have it irradiated.

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u/mrstipez 8d ago

South Easy Asia = "the little easy"

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u/dylmcc 8d ago This

Two questions: 1) Is he removed from the hotel he's staying at and put back into a detention centre until being deported? 2) Will his 3 year ban from Australia for lying on immigration forms also apply to any of the other 5-eyes nations like it usually would?

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u/teh_drewski 8d ago edited 8d ago Helpful

1) Is he removed from the hotel he's staying at and put back into a detention centre until being deported? 2) Will his 3 year ban from Australia for lying on immigration forms also apply to any of the other 5-eyes nations like it usually would?

You're gonna get a lot of misinformation here, but here's the actual answers:

1) No. Both parties' lawyers appeared before the Federal Circuit Court tonight and agreed that he could remain out of detention until at least tomorrow morning. The Commonwealth's position is currently that he will be detained tomorrow, but as always that is subject to change.

[EDIT] It was agreed tonight Australian time that Djokovic will remain undetained until tomorrow at 2pm local time (assuming tomorrow's hearing concludes on time) at which point he will be detained, until proceedings re-open on Sunday. [/EDIT]

2) There are no "5-eyes" exclusion periods as you seem to believe. What there is are various declarations that you have to make entering individual countries - Australia or other "5-eyes" countries or any other country - which often include declarations about past visa cancellations and/or deportations. What the "5-eyes" countries do is information share - if you are cancelled or deported in one, your history may make it onto a database in all 5 (or may not!) and that will affect your ability to enter those countries depending on the visa requirements and your ability to explain your history.

Note that even in Australia the 3 year exclusion period can be waived for any specific visa application.

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u/dylmcc 8d ago

Probably the best answer in this chain so far. Thank you for the info.

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u/pala_ 8d ago

He'll also have to answer 'yes' to 'have you been deported from any country in the last X years' questions on immigration forms.

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u/dylmcc 8d ago

Yeah, flip that always comes with a ton of scrutiny. Next question: "why were you deported?" - providing false information to an immigration officer.

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u/chaddaddycwizzie 8d ago

I don’t know much about immigration, and immigration officers, or international travel. Does he still have to deal with this stuff if he is flying privately to different countries? I guess what I’m asking is, does this actually affect him?

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u/InfiniteStrawberry37 8d ago

Yes, even flying private you still have to file immigration papers, you just get to skip the security line.

Typically an immigration officer will come on board after landing and check passports etc.

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u/Badloss 8d ago

The real question though is whether that will matter. Any Immigration officer that comes onto his private jet is going to know exactly who he is and why he was deported, and it'll probably get waived or negotiated ahead of time. He won't actually have to get detained and answer questions for hours like a normal person

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u/ezone2kil 8d ago

God forbid the rich person is slightly inconvenienced.

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u/dylmcc 8d ago

Private or public flights, you still need to go through border control/immigration. Almost all countries have questions about whether you've been deported from somewhere else and if so, why. Answering yes will put you under a lot more scrutiny, and there is a group of countries called the "5-eyes" (UK, US, Canada, Aus, NZ) which share immigration information. So if he travels to any of those countries and tries to say "no, he's not been deported before" he'll be in even more trouble.

Another angle is that a lot of visa waiver programs are not applicable to people who have been deported (i.e. if he used to rely on visa-waiver's for easy travel, he'll now have to attend in-person interviews at foreign embassies to apply for visas for the countries instead, and will have an up-hill battle)

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u/pro-life-crusader 8d ago

In all fairness, that “uphill battle” is only on an incline of about 4 degrees seeing as he’s rich and famous. Not saying it’s right or wrong, but they get away with a lot more than us common folk.

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u/tb00n 8d ago

Till Lindemann of Rammstein dislike entering the US because he always gets taken to the back room to explain why he has a US arrest record.

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u/Jaudark 8d ago

For the reason of faking homosexual sex with the keyboard player, in 1999, in Massachusetts. With a giant phallus shaped object. While fully clothed. It's an absurd reason to arrest someone.

Some in Canada doesn't like Trudeau's father, but the one thing I am grateful for is: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1811727781

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u/sa87 8d ago
  1. He’s been staying at a rented house, but yes, he will have to return to detention, he has no valid visa.
  2. It can, but the minister can waive that

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u/AntikytheraMachines 8d ago

some government official said something like "detention does not necessarily mean back to the detention centre. there can be home detention for example. however detention is not a tennis court."

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u/sa87 8d ago

yeah, I've read he can stay in the house, it'll be certain that there will be a police presence outside until his Immigration Interview

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u/Schedulator 8d ago

been listening to the court case here tonight. he gets to stay in the rental tonight. then he'll escorted to his lawyers office for half the day, then into detention hotel for Saturday night before the hearing at lawyers offices again on Sunday. S,,unday night he'll either be free to remain here, or get escorted to Melbourne airport.

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u/ausrandoman 8d ago Silver Helpful Wholesome Wearing is Caring Table Slap

First player to be out of a tournament after missing just two shots.

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u/isioltfu 8d ago Helpful

Too many unforced errors on his immigration form

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u/cmd_iii 8d ago

It’s all his fault….

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u/Yikesor 8d ago

Well, he's been served.

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u/pinkmile 8d ago Silver Helpful

if he gets 3-year re-entry ban, he'll be 38 by the time hes allowed to play in australia again, he'll probably be retired, which means hes already played his last game at Australian open

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u/apo383 8d ago Silver

I don’t see how Australia has any choice. They sternly insist that customs and immigration forms be accurate, or else consequences. If they say oh okay, unless your agent makes a human error, that’s fine. This was all in public, so there was really no way to quietly correct everything. The only downside is that I was hoping to someday sneak an overseas orange into Sydney by having my agent fill out NO on that question.

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u/YeahWTF20 8d ago Silver

If they hadn't done this, we'd never have been able to watch another episode of Border Patrol.

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u/ab00 8d ago

Exactly - human error is not an excuse. I'm going to be issuing you a fine today.

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u/okaywhattho 8d ago

Mud on your shoe?

I'm going to be issuing you a fine for sixty eight hundred thousand Australian Dollars today.

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u/monkeygoooh 8d ago

lmao what the fuck that is pretty messed up, but then again so is politics generally

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u/ThrowAway_yobJrZIqVG 8d ago

Border Force is going to be interesting once every punter trying to bring 300 kilos of raw meat into the country pays their neighbour to fill out their paperwork so they can blame it on human error by a staff member.

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u/patdoody 8d ago

I can't wait to see the Border Security episode on this.

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u/ElectionAssistance 8d ago

Third comment about the show in a row, with a third name for it. Either Oz has a huge obsession with border security shows and has a ton of them, they are called different things in different places, or none of ye cunts know what the damn thing is actually called.

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u/OhSoManyQuestions 8d ago

In the UK, as far as Australian border security shows go we have Nothing to Declare, which as far as I can tell is a different show with exactly the same premise lol.

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u/RancidKiwiFruit 8d ago

His Dad's response is going to be LIT

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u/SelmaFudd 8d ago

He'll be charging it up right now

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u/typiclaalex1 8d ago

Another comparison to Jesus coming up

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u/evetsabucs 8d ago Silver

I don't think he'll resurrect his visa in 3 days

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u/palmallamakarmafarma 8d ago

Jesus won't cut it now. I'm not sure where we go from here (Zeus?) but I'm confident dad can step up his hyperbole victim shit

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u/Siriacus 8d ago

"This is an absolute disgrace and we will appeal."

Media: "Did Novak visit a children's hospital while covid positive?"

"This press conference is adjourned."

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u/KateBushFuckingSucks 8d ago

Let's collectively ignore him.

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u/Zuki_LuvaBoi 8d ago Silver

Alex Hawke, the Immigration Minister used his authority to cancel Novak's visa

If you can't be bothered clicking, here's his statement:

"Today I exercised my power under section 133C(3) of the Migration Act to cancel the visa held by Mr Novak Djokovic on health and good order grounds, on the basis that it was in the public interest to do so.

"This decision followed orders by the Federal Circuit and Family Court on 10 January 2022, quashing a prior cancellation decision on procedural fairness grounds.

"In making this decision, I carefully considered information provided to me by the Department of Home Affairs, the Australian Border Force and Mr Djokovic.

"The Morrison Government is firmly committed to protecting Australia's borders, particularly in relation to the COVID-19 pandemic.

"I thank the officers of the Department of Home Affairs and the Australian Border Force who work every day to serve Australia's interests in increasingly challenging operational environments."

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u/theNomad_Reddit 8d ago

I wish the Morrison Government was as firmly committed to protecting Australia's citizens in relation to the COVID-19 pandemic, as it is it's borders.

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u/Pacmunchiez 8d ago Helpful

now now, it's only the "Morrison Government" when they think it makes him look good. It's the "Federal Government" when they need to pass the buck to the States and the "Australian Government" when they want to pass the buck to the people.

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u/ITslacker 8d ago

He lied on his forms, and breached his visa doing so. No complaints here.

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u/bigchungusmclungus 8d ago

He also either lied about getting the virus or got the virus and completely disregarded it by going to multiple events unmasked immediately following a positive test.

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u/deliosenvy 8d ago Silver Helpful Take My Energy Wearing is Caring To The Stars

He did much more than that he supposedly tested positive on 16th with a positive PCR spread the virus in Serbia, then went to Spain few days later magically with a negative PCR had 2 different interviews and multiple training sessions not telling anyone he was positive. He was sitting shoulder to shoulder with people, then returned to Belgrade partied more.

He reported to Australia that he did not travel for 14 days which is a requirement but he actually did.

So either he lied about positive PCR test or negative test. The test he provided to Spain shows he was negative, the one he provided to Australia was positive.

His statements to authorities are full of inconsistencies. He appears to have falsified his PCR result as confirmation codes, confirmation dates (not time stamps for download) and report ID don’t match at all.

Not only did he fuck up he actually broke a serious law which implicated him criminally.

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u/BothersomeBritish 8d ago Take My Energy

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u/tomisurf 8d ago

I don’t know why more fuss isn’t being made about this point. The “human error” made by the agent is one thing but this is blatant manipulation

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u/Cornfapper 8d ago

I'm also wondering about this. The man faked documents to get a visa, that's straight up illegal.

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u/Hips_and_valleys 8d ago

If all I've read here is true he should have been deported for unsound character. Falsified records, yes. Lied on a visa application, yes. Travelled while covid positive, yes. The guy has made no real attempt to follow both European and Australian laws.

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u/GlobalHoboInc 8d ago

It also throws doubt over an entire governments vaccine reporting and could impact every Serbian trying to travel. If other nations can't trust 'This person has been vaccinated' issued from the their government agency then they have to block or apply entry rules. This single guy (who isn't a Serbian tax payer, lives in Monaco to avoid paying tax) may have just made it harder for Serbs to travel around the EU and internationally.

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u/Wild-Individual-1634 8d ago

And people were laughing at me because I was afraid that my Serbian vaccination certificates wouldn’t be accepted in Germany, especially since the doctor’s office made a spelling mistake in my name which they couldn’t correct..

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u/j1xwnbsr 8d ago edited 8d ago

According to my relatives in Serbia, the government there is super-underreporting cases. You are only 'counted' if you die within 14 days from when you were tested (not tested, die @ 15 days, not counted), if they test port-mortem (hint: they don't) and it comes back positive (guess how often that is). Those that can, go to private clinics and those simply don't report at all, which just adds to the underreporting.

Add in people just don't seem to give a shit and go to the gym all the time even if they are high risk (extended family member who is a cancer survivor), go to a birthday party and give it to everyone (the OTHER family group), or go into the office every day even if you can remote because "you're lonely".

Oddly enough, the only one of my Serbian relatives that hasn't gotten sick is the one that smokes like a fucking coal plant after her husband Mr. Lonely contracted it.

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u/DestroyedByLSD25 8d ago

Schrödinger's test

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u/mugurg 8d ago

I don't understand how stupidly he handled all of this. Even if you're trying to manipulate the system, at least do it right. Just get a fake positive result on the 16th, sit on your ass for 10 days and then get a negative result before you fly to Australia. Say that you're recovered recently and has a repeated negative test result, which at least scientifically shows that you are not a danger covid-wise. Australia might still impose its rules and not allow you in the country (because they explicitly state that a recent recovery is not sufficient and you need to be vaccinated), but at least then you can argue in the court and complain publicly that you were discriminated on non-scientific basis.

Instead he goes to public events after his fake positive test, then a few days later goes to Spain with a negative test, and hides the fact that he had been to Spain recently. A total disaster.

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u/Silver-Refuse2496 8d ago

I sure hope Spain bans him from travelling there in the future because of this.

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u/jasperzieboon 8d ago

That will be EU wide.

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u/SuperHavre95 8d ago

I hope the EU bans him from coming back

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u/Deceptichum 8d ago Silver

Fuck off we don’t want him stuck here.

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u/leevei 8d ago

He's Serbian. Serbia is not part of EU. Both EU and Australia can ban him entry, and he'd still have a home.

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u/Deceptichum 8d ago

Oh right. Well carry on then.

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u/OddballDave 8d ago

Unfortunately he'll still be allowed into Wimbledon. Boris Johnson loves COVID rules breakers. He might even hire him as sports minister. He'll fit right in with this government.

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u/FlokiWolf 8d ago

His Wimbledon victory party will be held in the Garden of No. 10. It's fine, if he is sports minister it will be a work meeting.

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u/finneganfach 8d ago

Boris won't have a job by Wimbledon at this rate.

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u/LaviniaBeddard 8d ago

He'll fit right in with this government.

I don't know - did he go to the right school? Has he a history of repeated incompetence? Is his sole ambition to line his own pockets and the pockets of his company aka "The Conservative Party" at the nation's expense?

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u/Issa397BC 8d ago

In the 16th he went to a school and hanged out with a bunch of kids, maskless of course.

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u/boohjaka 8d ago

For sure he fucking lied about getting the virus. What perfect timing to make sure he could use this loophole. The man is a piece of shit, glad Aussies are standing up to it.

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u/insideoutcognito 8d ago

Agreed - his only problem is that he couldn't find a sufficient window of time where social media doesn't show him out and about whilst unmasked.

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u/GGezpzMuppy 8d ago

Man tried to lie every step of the way. Antivax people really are fucking stupid. the world gonna become a version of Wall-e very soon.

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u/Aerialise 8d ago

Not only lied on the forms re: his whereabouts, but either a) falsified his testing record, or b) knowingly surrounded himself with children unmasked while COVID positive.

And it’s not just a vaccine issue — he’s been caught out more than once trying to bend the rules. I’m not hot on the political theatre it’s turned into in Australia, but Novax dug his own grave on this one. Cya bud.

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u/easyfeel 8d ago

The PCR testing record could be looked up via the QR code in his court documents. It was negative and then later positive for the same QR code. How can he explain that?

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u/JoeyJoeC 8d ago

I saw that OSINT report too. The timestamps didn't match correctly either.

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u/GMN123 8d ago

Makes one wonder what other rules he's willing to bend.

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u/SticksDiesel 8d ago

Well he does suffer an 'injury' and have to take a time out whenever an opponent is beating him and has all the momentum, so there's that ...

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u/DaveInLondon89 8d ago Silver Helpful Wholesome

In tennis it's called an unforced error.

In Austrlian it's called being a cunt.

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u/boxhunter91 8d ago

And not the good kind of cunt.

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u/Zuki_LuvaBoi 8d ago

On top of that he'll be unable to re-enter Australia for another 3 years, thus missing out on another 3 Australian Opens.

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u/happyscrappy 8d ago

I'm honestly surprised he didn't voluntarily deport just to avoid the 3 year thing.

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u/firebird20000 8d ago

He's far too arrogant for that.

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u/Jawnyan 8d ago

Honestly since hearing his family claiming he was a political prisoner I’ve honestly just stopped giving about what he/his team are saying.

Thank fuck Australia stood up to his bullshit

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u/thrilloilogy 8d ago

They compared him to fucking JESUS. Their arrogance knows no bounds

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u/Grateful_sometimes 8d ago

He thought he’d win the battle.

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u/LaviniaBeddard 8d ago

He thought he’d win the battle.

When you've had special doors opened for you your whole life - "no need to go through there, sir, with all the plebs, we'll bring a car around and we'll get you there much more quickly and smoothly" - he must be absolutely stunned to have a door slammed in his face despite all his father's tantrums. Hilarious.

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u/patterninstatic 8d ago

It's hard to imagine consequences for your actions when you're a megalomaniac and a narcissist.

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u/Necessary_Common4426 8d ago

He’s going to have a tough battle when he omitted/lied to Spanish and Serbian officials as well as the Aussies

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u/nicebike 8d ago

He will not have any issues in Serbia, he is treated like some super human there, rules don’t apply to him. Possibly he expected the same treatment in Australia (that would at least explain his spoiled manchild behavior)

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u/fdesouche 8d ago

The irony is that he’s a Monaco resident, so he doesn’t pay Serbian taxes.

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u/lesser_panjandrum 8d ago

It's funny how so many nationalists will go to great lengths to avoid paying taxes to support their nation, isn't it?

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u/willflameboy 8d ago

Funny how the citizens they avoid helping and won't live amongst treat them like some god.

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u/chubbyurma 8d ago

He's going to have trouble fucking everywhere now.

He has to write on every form that he's been deported. That's a frequent traveller's worst nightmare.

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u/oxygenthievery 8d ago

His staff will 'forget' again

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u/Emakrepus 8d ago

He choose poorly.

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u/chubbyurma 8d ago

Australia's border security is not the best one to lie to

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u/dorkofthepolisci 8d ago

If I’ve learned anything from watching “Border Security: Australia’s Front Line” it’s that their border patrol does not fuck around

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u/dzernumbrd 8d ago Narwhal Salute Bravo Grande! Giggle

They cut and paste this script each episode:

border security: got any food in your bag?

old asian lady: no

bs: you ticked here "no" - are you sure you have no food?

oal: no food

bs: let's open your first suitcase and have a look

bs: what's this? this is food

bs: and what's this? this is food

bs: and this is food also! wtaf!

bs: let's open your second suitcase

bs: mother. fucker. this entire suitcase is ALL food - why did you tick NO to food?

oal: my english not good

bs: the card is in chinese!

bs: you're getting a fine

oal: no! it's not fair!

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_REPTILEZ 8d ago

Dude I saw one that was literally this script and the food in question was several dozen hardboiled eggs. Opened the bag and just moist Eggs. Everywhere. It's always the most conspicuous foods.

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u/flyingalbatross1 8d ago

I saw one where the entire suitcase was fish.

Like wtf, you're importing bulk fish at this point and ticking 'no' on the card and complaining

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u/frashal 8d ago

I was personally behind someone once at customs and their whole suitcase was mushrooms. I almost burst out laughing when they opened it.

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u/Legoman92 8d ago

It’s the same shit every time. These people are aware of the rules, they just don’t give a shit and hope they don’t get searched

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u/eerst 8d ago

I always say to my grandmother, don't carry eggs unless you're willing to own up to it.

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u/LomaSpeedling 8d ago

Why eggs lmfao you can buy eggs anywhere.

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u/PartTimeZombie 8d ago

Not in Australia. The snakes eat all the chickens.

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u/dorkofthepolisci 8d ago

And it’s never something like candies or chocolate that you could understand someone (especially if they are not a native English speaker) assuming is OK because it’s cooked and packaged.

It’s always raw meat or fresh veggies or home cooked and improperly stored.

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u/pantsman49 8d ago

Traveling with my old Asian mother-in-law.. this does not surprise me.. Last trip she took 5 whole chickens and 3kg of mushrooms (dried though), in her carry-on. They also wanted to bring live crab/lobster but I was able to talk them out of it. Luckily our trip was within Europe though.

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u/LomaSpeedling 8d ago

Just why?? Anywhere in Europe you could buy chickens

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u/pantsman49 8d ago

Yep, that's what I was thinking.. but they weren't as cheap & juicy as the ones she was carrying apparently..

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u/KarmaChameleon89 8d ago

Why are there 750 cartons of cigarettes stuffed in this teddy bear? How the fuck did you even fit this in here?! I’m not even mad at this point.

No english

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u/Cielo11 8d ago

A big part of this story people are missing, is that he could have entered the country by doing a 2 week quarantine...

He clearly thought he was above the rules and didn't want to do a 2 week quarantine so lied on entry forms to avoid it.

Huge dick move.

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u/socokid 8d ago

He could just get the fucking safe and effective vaccine.

Takes two seconds.

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u/Pacmunchiez 8d ago

He might have gotten away with it if he had kept his fucking mouth shut and it wasn't an election year. It's flogs all the way down unfortunately.

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u/ridimarbac 8d ago Helpful Table Slap

Novisa Djokevict

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u/adrianzimmer 8d ago Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome

Hes like a pokemon and evolving Novak > Novax > Novisa

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u/AvoidMyRange 8d ago edited 8d ago

Fun fact: I stayed at a sports hotel in Serbia where he trained as a child - what is the city called: Novi Sad. The amount of pictures of him hanging there, you would not believe. Absolute insanity.

Nice place though, Exit Festival was great.

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u/Borghal 8d ago

Idk if it's true in Serbian as well, but in some other slavic languages, his name means "New guy" and is a really common surname, like someone called Smith in English. And the city is translated as something like "New Orchard/Garden".

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u/kelsephine 8d ago

This is actually really good lol

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u/CosmoKram3r 8d ago

This is quickly becoming like the Benedict Cumberbatch meme and I'm starting to like it.

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u/DiscombobulatedGuava 8d ago

Novaxx Djackassbitch

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u/KrampyDoo 8d ago

Immigration Minister Hawke was just so over this whole thing.

They gave every opportunity to clarify/justify but his stupid ass and his parents did themselves no favors every step of the way.

Dumbest hills to die on.

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u/satisfiedfools 8d ago

Everyone's over it. This has been headline news in Australia for the past week. Novak this, Novak that

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u/mashupman1234 8d ago Helpful Wholesome Bravo! Giggle

Novak- cine no entry.

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u/Nisja 8d ago Silver

Novax™️

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u/Lint_baby_uvulla 8d ago

I believe that is now NoVISA ™️

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u/ThatHorridMan 8d ago

Novak hit me with a wiffle ball bat

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u/Duyfkenthefirst 8d ago

Actually, whilst i think they made the right decision, it was in their interest to drag it out.

Australian election is coming up soon and the PM is very unpopular for a number of critical issues like the way he handled Bushfires of 2020 and Covid over the last 2 years.

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u/conairh 8d ago

Handled implies literally ANY action was taken. Teenagers rush to do homework faster than he gets bullied into leading a country

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u/Smartranga 8d ago

Hard for him to appeal getting canceled on "health grounds" when he obviously couldn't give a shit about covid

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u/pevaryl 8d ago edited 7d ago

Technically you can’t appeal the ministers decision on its merits anyway. You can only judicially review - which is looking for procedural errors (and how the first decision to cancel got overturned). This can vaguely stray into merits territory but it’s not really supposed to

It’s likely that the Australian govt were EXTREMELY careful this time to do things by the book

Edit: I expect the judicial review will focus on whether the decision was disproportionate, which is a pretty nebulous ground for judicial review and will require some creative argument from both sides - the idea is “you shouldn’t use a hammer to crack a nut”

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u/DeeDee_GigaDooDoo 8d ago

Agreed. The minister basically has full authority to deny anyone a visa at their discretion so this is well within their authority. Their may be some technicalities they try to pick at but the minister's power is fairly broad in this regard so I don't think it has much hope of being overturned again.

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u/sa87 8d ago

There is too much evidence of wrongdoing from Novax and his team to recover.

They can whinge to a judge all they want but the clause used for cancelling the visa has literally no chance to be overturned.

The only thing they can hope for is the judge hearing the appeal forces Immigration to give him a Bridging visa to remain in the country but even then Novax’s lawyers have to be very good at convincing the judge that this cancellation was also incorrect.

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u/Bosco_is_a_prick 8d ago edited 8d ago

Even the PM of Serbia backed down and said they would be investigating his breach of isolation

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u/DamienJaxx 8d ago

Cause this raises questions about Serbia's record keeping. Now all Serbians may have to face extra scrutiny because of one asshole.

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u/sa87 8d ago

let's see, I wouldn't be surprised the Serbian PM changes their stance depending on the public feeling

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u/Sellazar 8d ago

Always astounds me how an athlete whose main assest is their body would not care about covid. One low roll, and he has long covid and can kiss winning anything goodbye.

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u/hydrangeastho 8d ago

I honestly think a lot of it comes down to diet and gym culture that pushes this idea that there's an objectively universally correct way to fuel and utilise the human body. A lot of the talking points for these anti vax athlete types are things like "I eat well and work out 5 days a week, if you look after your body it can fend off the virus easily itself. People who are dying are old and fat and eat junk food non stop." Which is, of course, untrue, but I think it's an ideology that ties into wider cultural issues of untreated orthorexia in gym culture, and this attempt that you can see regularly in fitness influences to eat 'perfectly' etc etc.

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u/bitofrock 8d ago Silver Gold

I've noticed this and it's why I decided to not go to the gym for a while. I went once last year as restrictions were relaxed but realised a lot of people didn't care. I have a heart condition. I exercise and work out to give myself the best chances, and probably look better than the average fella round here, but ultimately viruses don't work like that. It's about chances. Life is like Russian Roulette with a million chamberer revolver. You can add bullets by being overweight, eating badly, smoking, etc. You can remove bullets by exercising, keeping slim, avoiding too much sugar... But you can never entirely empty every chamber. Getting vaccinated adds a bullet, but removes fifty. It's as simple as that. If you're very healthy it might only remove ten bullets, but it's still an improvement.

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u/BandoBear 8d ago

That is actually a really good analogy for healthy and unhealthy lifestyle choices. I'll remember that.

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u/bitofrock 8d ago

It's not entirely original - I don't know where I heard the first version of it, but I liked it and rolled with it and kind of expanded it out from there a little.

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u/OhSoManyQuestions 8d ago

This is the most interesting analogy I've heard in the last two years. Thanks

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u/amungee 8d ago

Good luck appealing this in the Federal Court, it is almost unprecedented in Australia for a federal judge to order the executive government to grant someone a visa.

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u/3f3 8d ago

Lovely timing. Sending that email out last thing on Friday afternoon. Courts are closed until Monday

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u/foul_ol_ron 8d ago

I think they can still hear urgent matters. As someone else stated, it's also a convenient way to avoid some of the media reporting.

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u/WorstPersonInGeneral 8d ago

CONSEQUENCES? FOR MY ACTIONS?!

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u/joyosects 8d ago

This is the 21st century and he is rich, he can't be expected to follow the rules.

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u/BeardedGingerWonder 8d ago

Haha, it has ever been so.

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u/10000Didgeridoos 8d ago

Are you implying that the rich were held to a higher standard in past centuries? They were not.

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u/GreenFlyingSauce 8d ago

Every decision has a consequence. He chose his beliefs over career, he shouldn’t complain over the decision. It’s good to see people that is put in pedestals being hold accountable. Sucks he’ll miss out the opportunity , but justice should be fair and equal.

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u/khalast_6669 8d ago edited 8d ago Helpful Wholesome Take My Energy Bravo! Wearing is Caring

On behalf of much of the world... Thanks Australia!!

This person:

- Has lied in the documentation for his visa.

- In case his covid test from mid-december is real, he endangered a lot of people by breaking his isolation.

- in case his covid test is not real (most likely option), he's forged information to circumvent the restrictions imposed by a sovereign country to protect the health of its citizens.

This person should not only be deported from Australia for lying in the visa forms, he should be treated like every other person and be banned for the coming years.

Also, Serbian authorities should investigate if he really broke his isolation, and act accordingly.

On top of all of that, he's been spreading false information and false fears about the vaccines, and other things, for years, endangering a lot of people because of the influence he has.

No pity here.

Edit: thanks for the awards! Totally undeserved, I'm just saying what most people know and think.

Edit 2: I should add that if the test is real, he probably lied as well when entering Spain in Christmas. He should be investigated by Spanish authorities.

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u/aister 8d ago Wholesome

Serbian government has already begun investigation regarding the isolation breaking incident

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u/Cool_Honey_8724 8d ago

Plot twist,

The government gave false positive test results for the git to use in court last Monday. Now they are covering their own asses.

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u/keqpi 8d ago

Their entire mood about this completely did a 180 after the Serbian President managed to get a phone call with the Australian PM. Would have loved to listen to that

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u/uihrqghbrwfgquz 8d ago

Probably something about "If you are falsifying Health Documents for your Citizens we will ban every Citizen of yours to come to Australia or have them undergo our medical procedures on their cost".

I guess something like that.

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u/crimsdings 8d ago

If you people think the Serbian government will punish one of their sport heroes you clearly have never been to the Balkan before.

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u/patdoody 8d ago

We faltered in the second set, but Australia has a great return Serb after all.

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u/Joungs 8d ago

Love it mate

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u/BigDomz 8d ago

Some small part is sad I won't get to see him play getting boo'd and heckled by the crowd the entire time

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u/MegaFonz 8d ago

Same but would be worse if he was boo'd and still won... Imagine the headlines "in a country that doesn't want him, with a crowd that hates him, he is triumphant. A true legend to tennis and true hero to mankind."

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u/Grab_The_Inhaler 8d ago

Especially as it'd be his tenth win there, and 21st overall major (taking him from joint first with Nadal/Fed to outright first)

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u/TheFergPunk 8d ago

As someone from the UK, it's rather hilarious seeing the people who often cite Australia as a country that properly controls its borders and something to aspire to in that regard, now lose their shit because Australia are controlling their borders.

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u/superegz 8d ago

One of the most famous quotes of Australian politics over the last couple of decades is then Prime Minister John Howard in the 2001 election telling a crowd "We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come!" Which immediately start clapping and cheering.

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u/Stoopeydaboope 8d ago

If he feels this is a negative situation and he sends positive energy and vibes towards it, he can overcome it right ?

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u/kale__chips 8d ago

Glad it got cancelled. Exemption should only be given to those who are eligible. There are too many questionable information about Djokovic's case. You can't just blame "human error" on everything and expect the other side would accept it as an excuse.

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u/Miserable-Lizard 8d ago

This whole situation as revealed he isn't a good person.

He won't get to play in Canada if there is a tournament and he is still unvaxxed.

I don't have any sympathy for him.

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u/joshvalo 8d ago

The French Open is the next major tournament I believe and they too have the 'no vax, no entry' rule, so he's out of that also

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u/DeanXeL 8d ago

He's revealed he's not a good person years ago. He's always been a manchild.

He had his good moments, but he's thrown his share of temper tantrums.

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u/greygerenuk 8d ago

As a Kiwi…thank god our neighbours have some balls for this type of thing. Was worried if this type of situation leaked through it’d become precedent for us also.

Well done yah cunts

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u/NitemaresEcho 8d ago

Good, hopefully this leads to the start of "celebrity's aren't exempt from the rules" movement. Still a long way, but a step in the right direction.

And for those of you saying it's not his fault, it's his agents fault, too bad. Should of hired a more competent agent. Actions have consequences and nobody should be exempt from them.

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u/galwegian 8d ago

i don't really care for tennis but i have already had enough Djokovic to last a lifetime.

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u/TacoWithFrijoles 8d ago

Mate he really fucked up everything , getting your visa cancelled by the Minister that's another level , I remember reaching Australia legally on a valid visa and then seeking asylum , it took me 6 years and 1 judicial apeal to be granted my permanent residency and I remember being in front of the judge telling me , I granted your visa because you proved to me and this country that you were a really good citizen , paying your taxes obeying and complying with Australian laws, many migrants can't stay here more than 1 year without committing an offense ...

Australian immigration system is tough but just be a good person pay your taxes and don't commit offences and you will be rewarded.

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u/BringBackAoE 8d ago

Mr Hawke said he cancelled the visa on "health and good order grounds, on the basis that it was in the public interest to do so".

I am glad to see the "good order grounds" in there too.

Almost regardless of which of the many versions of "facts" presented by Djokovic one chooses to believe, he is clearly someone who does not respect the rules of Australia or Serbia with regard to Covid, and does not deserve favorable treatment.

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u/alonetogetherandgods 8d ago

I don't care what your beliefs are about the vaccine, the only question that needs to be asked is how would a non-celebrity be treated. They would be deported. They probably would have never received an exemption in the first place.

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u/Technical-Gold5772 8d ago

If you read the article, he never actually received an exemption from anyone other than Tennis Australia, and the don't generally have any powers over immigration

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u/UnloadTheBacon 8d ago

Between this and Andrew being stripped of his titles, this is turning into a good week for justice being served on entitled assholes.

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u/One-Move4807 8d ago

No surprise this is the decision, only thing surprising is how long it took.

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u/insideoutcognito 8d ago

Timing it for Friday afternoon here in Aus, so it's more difficult to get a court to hear urgent injunctions and stuff.

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u/Can-I-remember 8d ago

And 5.00 - 6.00 Friday is where you release the contentious stuff to the media. End of the news cycle.

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u/policemenconnoisseur 8d ago

A millionaire gets treated like a commoner? I need to rub my eyes.

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u/Acrobatic_End6355 8d ago

Good. He shouldn’t get special privileges just because he is good at playing a sport.

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u/sillywatermelons 8d ago

One of my patients is 89 and came to Australia after WWII.

He STILL has his vaccination paperwork from England and the boosters he was required to get to enter the country.

None of this is new. None of this is shocking. No jab, no entry.

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