r/worldnews Dec 05 '21 Wholesome 14 Faith In Humanity Restored 1 Rocket Like 1 Are You Winning? 1 Silver 5 Helpful 13

Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sarco-suicide-capsule--passes-legal-review--in-switzerland/46966510
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u/ChompyChomp Dec 05 '21

Why does the article mention that it's "3D printed" so many times? It's obviously not the kind of thing that can be made by a hobbyist on a commercially available 3D printer, so why does the manufacturing process of this custom pod matter?

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u/coinsaken Dec 05 '21

Yea, just wait til it’s posted online

C’mon ppl you can do this

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u/killerguppy101 Dec 05 '21 Silver Helpful Wholesome

You wouldn't download a suicide, would you?

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u/sagiterrible Dec 05 '21 Hugz Wholesome (Pro)

Bet I motherfucking would.

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u/Jackfruit-Fine Dec 05 '21

Just download [highly competitive game] and you’re halfway there!

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u/mightymorphineranger Dec 06 '21

First thing i was thinking. How much can a flight to Switzerland cost from USA? I have zero interest in where the world's headed. No kids, no decent prospects, shitshow in every horizon.

Cmon suicide booth! Give me your best shot!

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u/Matelot67 Dec 05 '21

"Downloading this software illegally is punishable by DEATH!"

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u/Aesthetics_Supernal Dec 05 '21

Cognitohazards be like:

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u/darga89 Dec 05 '21

Gotta buzz word everything

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u/fried_eggs_and_ham Dec 05 '21

They should have thrown in a couple of "AI powered" and "Minty Fresh" as well.

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u/poxenham Dec 05 '21

3D printing tends to be a buzzword used to impress with how “futuristic” something is, but usually just shows that the company doesn’t have a competent manufacturing team or plan

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u/Bupod Dec 05 '21

I'll agree on the buzzword aspect of it, but disagree on the competent manufacturing team or plan. It doesn't necessarily indicate that at all. I used to work for a major marine hardware manufacturer who purchased some smaller 3D printers.

Something being 3D printed, in industry, just means it is in the early prototype stage. 3D printing grants the ability to rapidly produce prototypes that you can examine and do a limited variety of tests on (form and fit tests, specifically). Since it is low-cost, low-risk, companies love being able to print multiple prototypes that they can physically examine and test before finally settling on a design and send it off to have a more expensive prototype made if necessary, or send it to production.

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u/sheky Dec 05 '21 Wholesome

You'd think they'd make it big enough that I didn't feel like the last few moments of my life were stuck inside the middle seat on Spirit airways.

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u/deltashmelta Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

Good news. They're partnering with Spirit-Airlines to offer a "group option", as it takes out the normal guesswork.

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u/wild_starlight Dec 06 '21

I read this in Professor Farnsworth’s voice

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u/killerguppy101 Dec 05 '21

If they could just package it into a coffin shape, it would save a step!

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u/ChaosDesigned Dec 06 '21

It'll probably come in American sizes later in development.

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u/AllyJo Dec 05 '21 Silver Helpful

“Please select all pictures that include a crosswalk”

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u/myAFredditaccount Dec 05 '21 Silver

YOU HAVE SELECTED: SLOW AND HORRIBLE.

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u/turboshoe1983 Dec 06 '21 Silver Helpful

chamber powers down, the door opens.

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u/nept_r Dec 06 '21

Hahaha

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u/humdawg Dec 06 '21

Ahahahaha

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u/ikhos Dec 05 '21

Well I don't have anything else planned for the evening... Wanna get a beer?

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u/Nellyelly_ Dec 05 '21

I was hoping someone said this. I am not disappointed 😂

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u/AParticularMuffin Dec 05 '21 Silver

Please verify that you're human before you're killed.

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u/Trackpoint Dec 05 '21

angry Bender noises

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u/Unnoticedlobster Dec 05 '21

What about zoidberg! (V)(;,,;)(Y)

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u/Tmbgkc Dec 05 '21

"PLEASE VERIFY YOU ARE A HUMAN IF YOU NO LONGER WISH TO BE A HUMAN"

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u/bludfam Dec 05 '21

If a person wasn't suicidal, they would be after trying to answer 10 captchas.

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u/PerodisCS Dec 05 '21

Kinda interesting, I've read these "not a robot" things asking you to identify objects, or numbers on buildings are used to train Google AI

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u/JamesDCooper Dec 05 '21

That's exactly what captchas has always been about even back when we had to identify letters.

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u/sthetic Dec 05 '21

So it's getting more complex.

Soon: "Please identify from these video recordings of humans answering questions, which of them are mentally sound, informed about their choice, and ready to die by suicide."

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u/klleah Dec 05 '21

Deepfake has entered the captcha

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u/kingakrasia Dec 05 '21

The first Sarco is being displayed at the Museum for Sepulchral Culture in Kassel, Germany from September 2021 to February 2022. The second turned out not to be aesthetically pleasing. For that and various other reasons it’s not the best one to use.

I need to see the one that went wrong.

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u/Vincesteeples Dec 05 '21

If it’s a brass bull I’m going to be very upset

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u/CivilFisher Dec 05 '21

It was probably a table with swinging axes and chainsaws overhead

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u/museolini Dec 05 '21 Spit-take

Nah, it was a Ford Pinto.

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u/dropkickoz Dec 05 '21

Stuck in reverse.

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u/Pups_the_Jew Dec 05 '21

Lights will guiuiuiuide you home.

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u/relevant__comment Dec 05 '21

I’m disappointed there’s a few generations that won’t understand the glorious-ness of this joke.

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u/not_this_again2046 Dec 05 '21

That scene from Top Secret leaves more people scratching their heads with each passing year😂

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u/KiloCharlieOne Dec 05 '21

VIVA LA FRANCE drop kick. Man I love that movie.

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u/civgarth Dec 05 '21

Boom goes the dynamite

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u/Deep_Grady Dec 05 '21

For those out of the loop: they exploded when rear-ended.

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u/Atheril Dec 05 '21

If it’s not I’m going to be upset

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u/MaxamillionGrey Dec 05 '21

They added permanent truck balls to the back of the machine.

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u/madatthe Dec 05 '21

“Our aim is to develop an artificial intelligence screening system to establish the person’s mental capacity. Naturally there is a lot of scepticism, especially on the part of psychiatrists. But our original conceptual idea is that the person would do an online test and receive a code to access the Sarco.”

Wait, what?

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u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh Dec 05 '21

That sounds almost like they want to offer fully automated suicide booths, but I suspect the actual reason is that they're having trouble finding psychiatrists confirm people's mental capacity for this purpose, and thus they want to remove the human from the loop.

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u/Gubru Dec 05 '21 Silver Wholesome hehehehe

Thank you for using Stop And Drop, America's favorite suicide booth since 2008.

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u/RevengeofKropotkin Dec 05 '21

I can see it now…

Stop and Drop Stadium

Ryan Seacrest’s New Year’s Eve Bash 2031 Sponsored by Stop and Drop

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u/walk_through_this Dec 05 '21

'The last show you'll ever want to see'

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u/i_dont_shine Dec 05 '21

You are now dead.

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u/zaz969 Dec 05 '21

Please take your receipt

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u/Ax20414 Dec 05 '21 Silver hehehehe

Thank you for using Self-Checkout.

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u/ollieseven Dec 05 '21

Please complete the survey to let us know how satisfied you are with your death.

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u/HeresJerzei Dec 05 '21

Type in the code at the end of the survey for half off your next suicide!

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u/EZPickens71 Dec 05 '21

Check out our promo code for group discounts!

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u/azra1l Dec 05 '21

And don't forget, December is suicide month, get 3 for 2!

Reddit against humanity <3

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u/Lou_Mannati Dec 05 '21

50% off , if you get a friend to register

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u/ResidentEivvil Dec 05 '21

Unexpected item in the bagging area.

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u/Andibular Dec 05 '21

I'm in a hurry here, we'll try for a two-for.

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u/crayish Dec 05 '21 edited Dec 05 '21 Silver Eureka!

Perhaps if one of the most existential questions for humanity can't be answered by the most qualified humans, we shouldn't outsource it to AI?

edit: I am ignoring all replies trying to convince me otherwise unless generated by AI rather than a human being.

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u/BitchesQuoteMarilyn Dec 05 '21

It's probably because the psychiatrist doesn't like the idea of approving someone's death. They are generally trained to try to get someone to not be suicidal, not condone it.

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u/sennbat Dec 05 '21

Its less that its a hard question (in many cases its pretty clear cut one way or another, and presumably this will err on the side of safety), so much as it is a decision that is fucking ruinous for most people to actually make. Very few people are comfortable signing off on someone's death even if, philosophically and pragmatically and culturally, it is the undeniably correct course of action. Like best case scenario you're still ending up with a bunch if traumatized psychs.

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u/thenyx Dec 05 '21 edited Dec 05 '21

It’s the same reason why there are multiple “executioners” during the lethal injection phase, pushing the button to administer the meds to end the inmate’s life- for their mental wellbeing. They never really know who did it.

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u/Rejacked Dec 05 '21

I don't understand this. Doesn't this just expose more people to potential trauma?

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u/thenyx Dec 05 '21

On the one hand, perhaps? The idea is that with multiple people hitting the button, but with a computer randomly “triggering” from one, each of them both think they did and didn’t trigger the end of someone’s life. Kinda like a Kubrick movie or a Schrödinger’s box situation. Open to interpretation.

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u/Xenjael Dec 05 '21 Silver

The datasets would be designed by humans. So there is no true way to tale out that element.

I suspect their true concern is human bias to want people to live. Thing is, deciding how we die is something humans should have the ability to do, and it should be respected even if difficult to swallow.

I think of a loved one many years back dying of cancer, but had such a lifeforce or strength of will she loved for 12 years with stage 4. Constant agony. Her body melting.

One day she rolled over and asked her husband to help her go. And he did. And it was illegal at that time, there.

No one knows. And i think of her and watching my family die during covid... and i remember how often my grandma told me in her early 90s she was ready to go.

But she stayed, out of a sense of duty until covid or induced isolation took her.

I think if a human can design data sets without bias, an AI can handle assisting someone resolute in that choice a means to enable it.

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u/ChefChopNSlice Dec 05 '21 Helpful Starry

I had 4 grandparents waste away and die miserably, long after they wanted to give up. One had a series of strokes, and got dementia. In the early stages, he would frequently say if he had a gun, he’d shoot himself. He died in hospice several months later, barely conscious, in pain and confused when he was awake, and died after being sedated heavily on morphine for a while. His wife struggled through cancer that she refused to treat, and died at home, painfully and drowning in her own lung fluids, with my mom attempting to care for her because she refused to go to a hospital (my mom is now thoroughly fucked up and likely has PTSD from it, despite being a career nurse).

My other grandfather had prostate cancer which spread to his brain, and he died with severe dementia (my dad had to wrestle his gun away from him that he kept from the war, because he was ready to kill the old caretaker that was helping them - convinced that she was having people over to hang out in the middle of the night and eat his food. His wife basically gave up after he died, and spent the last few months of her life sobbing on my aunts (her daughters) couch waiting to die, herself.

My wife is battling stage 4 cancer right now. Stage 4 is still often treatable for some time, but has spread beyond the point of containment and is considered lethal, barring some sort of divine intervention. It is an inevitable death sentence. None of the experts know how long the battle will last, but they all know how it will end. It’s not fair for her to know what’s coming, and be powerless to do anything to avoid it. It’s also not fair for my 5 and 7 year old to one day have to go through that, and take that experience with them as the last physical memory of their mother.

We routinely take our pets to the vet to be put down, when there is no cure for their ailments, in order to make sure we don’t prolong their suffering. Forcing another person to suffer needlessly, is fucking sadistic and cruel. In this act, we are putting the dignity of a pet above the dignity of another human being, and it’s not “right” - no matter what “experts”, AI, or the law may say.

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u/Ramendomness Dec 05 '21

Those are some clear examples demonstrating the need to make our own decisions about the end of life. Thanks for that.

To me the main issue is this: Our right to die on our own terms is not a moral obligation for someone else to help. In my mind there's two solutions to this:

- Democratically determine a rulebook for when a lethal, humane method becomes available to someone. This can include terminal ilness but also registering a wish to die for two consecutive years for example. That way we remove the burden of decision and execution from the individual doctor who might not be comfortable with it.

- Create a new profession in which assisted death is clearly specified. A soldier knows being asked to end another human's life can be part of their work. I think a general doctor/psychiatrist currently does not have that as part of their job, they sign up to save lives. Therefore I think the group of doctors who find themselves in agreement with assisting death can take a special title for this.

Anyway, just some thoughts. It's not been as relevant in my life as it has been in yours but in the next decade or so it likely will be and I'm glad for the opportunity to read about this online.

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u/death_of_gnats Dec 05 '21

Buncha folks who've had the privilege of not sitting at hospital bedsides waiting for someone to die. It's fucking miserable.

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u/R3DKn16h7 Dec 05 '21

Is a big ethical thing. I personally want people to be able to end their life on their own term. However, it would be extremely hard to have part in it in any way and form. And I think for health professionals giving the ok could be and is very taxing, so it's hard to find such people.

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u/chryseusAquila Dec 05 '21

you have to prove that you ain't a robot before using the capsule.

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u/vangoghcuckurself Dec 05 '21 Silver Helpful

Bender would be pissed

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u/tempthrowary Dec 05 '21

He would also walk in and out of a Futurama suicide booth with only mild damage. He still gets the last laugh.

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u/DiligentDaughter Dec 05 '21

Unless he used to date it.

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u/ayeyo_pabs Dec 05 '21

So I’ll have to click on all the squares with street lights in the picture…..got it

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u/Vamanoscabron Dec 05 '21

Haaahaaaa captcha is def suicide-inducing

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u/Rrraou Dec 05 '21

Woman, man, camera .... tv.....

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u/paulfromatlanta Dec 05 '21 edited Dec 05 '21

Yes - "You failed to correctly identify the squares with traffic lights and thus are not cleared to commit suicide."

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u/WimbleWimble Dec 05 '21

Please click on all the happy smiling people hugging kittens to continue.

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u/Numbre002 Dec 05 '21 Silver

To continue, please identify all images containing bicycles.

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u/implicitpharmakoi Dec 05 '21

To continue, please click on images of loved ones who would be emotionally crippled by your loss.

Course you could just put random pictures of bicycles to f with them.

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u/Lucius-Halthier Dec 05 '21

“If you don’t see pictures of loved ones press skip”

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u/Twindude1 Dec 05 '21 Silver

If I wanted people online to tell me i can kill myself I would just play Halo

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u/StalinDNW Dec 05 '21

We're sorry, but it seems you don't want to die enough for this procedure. Please try again when you have a stronger desire to die. Have a nice day!

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u/Sunburnt-Vampire Dec 05 '21

I suspect it's not checking "desire for death" but instead whether they are mentally capable enough to make this decision. E.g. an IQ test type moment.

You don't want somebody high on super strong drugs (either legal e.g. painkillers or illegal) using it to commit suicide basically.

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u/GreatAndPowerfulNixy Dec 05 '21

Psychiatric screenings are fairly objective but not perfect. I wouldn't want to implement a process with no human involved (because body language can be a big component of these screenings) but I can see why they'd move in that direction.

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u/openmindedskeptic Dec 05 '21

I mean I had to go through two psychiatric screenings just to be diagnosed for ADHD. Maybe just say 5 screenings and call it day for the suicide booth.

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u/sooninthepen Dec 05 '21

"Please complete the capTCHA before proceeding"

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u/Low_Impact681 Dec 05 '21

Just imagine in the future all the medical technology gets mashed together. You inquire on your stubbed toe and the response is, "Here's a code to the self termination chamber; have a nice day!"

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u/Meat-o-ball Dec 05 '21

Check before paying and If it doesn’t have the two modes of death: "quick and painless" and "slow and horrible" then it is not a Stop’n’Drop. https://futurama.fandom.com/wiki/Suicide_Booth

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u/garlic_b Dec 05 '21

How ‘bout we try for a twofer‽

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u/salsashark99 Dec 05 '21

How do you type an interrobang?

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u/euphomptus Dec 05 '21

You kidding? I was a star! I could bend a girder to any angle: 30 degrees, 32 degrees, you name it! 31. But I couldn't go on living once I found out what the girders were for.

What?

Suicide booths!

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u/TripleEhBeef Dec 05 '21

"You really want a robot as a friend?"

"Yeah, ever since I was six."

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u/Theprefs Dec 05 '21

One of my favorite jokes from the show

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u/Comfortable_Lemon105 Dec 05 '21

I cannot believe how often life has been imitating art recently

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u/mjduce Dec 05 '21

Art is an expression of life, and often that expression is one of pain & suffering. I'm not at all shocked in this case.

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u/DJToastyBuns Dec 05 '21

Pretty sure the Futurama gag was a reference to a Kurt Vonnegut short story

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u/ilikeme1 Dec 05 '21

“You are now dead! Thanks for using Stop N’ Drop!”

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u/jonoghue Dec 05 '21

"America's favorite suicide booth since 2008" On that note, did futurama predict the financial crisis?

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u/Archibaldy3 Dec 05 '21 edited Dec 05 '21 Silver Helpful Wholesome Take My Energy Heartwarming

My brother had M.A.I.D. (Medically Assisted In Dying) in Canada. He had cancer that had spread to his whole body and bones. He battled for a couple of years when he was only given a couple of months to live, but ultimately knowing that he had m.a.i.d. comforted him - knowing he wouldn’t have to suffer greatly.

He valued his privacy and the last precious weeks of his life, but agreed to have a short documentary made about him to help the movement, as there is quite a stigma to this, particularly with religious people. I remember seeing comments that he was going to “burn in hell” from some people. He took m.a.i.d. and died peacefully, surrounded by friends and family. Edited to add a link to his short documentary: Medically assisted Dying

Link to song i wrote as requested [you can just listen you don't have to pay] : WILL

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u/Borntolose88 Dec 05 '21

May he rest peacefully.

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u/TheWiseGrasshopper Dec 05 '21

The thought that some countries respect people enough to let them choose when they want to die (when given a terminal diagnosis) -instead of forcing them to suffer until their bodily functions implode and have the family painfully bear witness to their slow demise (like in the US)- makes me happy.

May your brother rest In peace and take comfort from the fact that you will always have great memories of him.

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u/mbnmac Dec 05 '21

The assisted death law was passed in NZ last year and we are yet to see it used (first case is coming up I think?) after all the scaremongering that doctors would be killing old people left and right.

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u/grettp3 Dec 05 '21

Some states allow for MAID. My state, Colorado, and Oregon both do. Oregons had it for awhile, we just voted for it in Colorado rather recently. Check out the film “How to Die in Oregon.”

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u/RIPUSA Dec 05 '21

It’s very difficult to get approval for it in OR and not used very often. Source: worked hospice in OR.

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u/urfavecrazycatlady Dec 05 '21

How to Die in Oregon was one of the handful of documentaries that I think back on even years after watching it. It really opened my eyes and helped me better understand MAID and I have a profound respect for those who choose to die with dignity.

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u/xeverxsleepx Dec 05 '21

instead of forcing them to suffer until their bodily functions implode and have the family painfully bear witness to their slow demise (like in the US)- makes me happy.

Well due to the U.S. "healthcare system", they're making money off of that living person suffering, sadly.

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u/HaitianFire Dec 05 '21

And when people need treatment, but the hospital can't charge them any more, they'll replace their bed as quickly as possible

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u/MarcelineMSU Dec 05 '21

I’m glad he was able to go out on his terms in a much better way. Everyone should be able to die with dignity.

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u/thinkinwrinkle Dec 05 '21

I’m sorry you had to see BS like that directed at your brother. I’m glad he was in a country that allowed him to make the choice to end his suffering.

Is this documentary online?

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u/Archibaldy3 Dec 05 '21

Yes the documentary is online - it's short and worth a watch. Disclaimer for my bro - he had Cushings Syndrome near the end from all the cancer treatments so his face and neck are very bloated- here's a link for anyone interested: Medically Assisted Dying

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u/bhenn1 Dec 05 '21

Thank you for sharing the doc, may your brother Rest In Peace, and power to him for inviting people into his story to further this movement, I’m sure there are many in similar situations that are grateful for it. I shed a tear for your brother today

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u/peachesanddreams129 Dec 05 '21

I’m sorry for your loss. Thanks for sharing this doc. What an amazing memory of him you have to treasure.

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u/tea_n_typewriters Dec 05 '21

The religious folks staunchly against this can go fuck themselves. If I've got cancer up to my eyeballs and I have a choice between painless death and my family going through the hell of watching me die of it, I'm choosing the former, legal or not. They're welcome to charge me after my death.

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u/Xpress_interest Dec 05 '21

If your life insurance needs to pay out so your family can not worry about finances for your funeral or for a while after your die, medically assisted death due to a painful and terminal condition being routine and covered would be pretty important. As it is a ton of people suffer a whole lot so their families are secure.

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u/jumpy_monkey Dec 05 '21

Suicide is generally covered by life insurance after an "exclusion period" of one to two years from the initiation of the policy.

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u/Oraxy51 Dec 05 '21

I think if you’re doomed to die, setting it up on your own terms is at least one of the last comforts you can have. You could even setup your own funeral and everything if you really wanted too. You could really get the most of that family time and do everything you can to make the process far less painful than you simply not waking up one day unexpectedly, or collapsing down the stairs when you’re just trying to go to the attic to grab something.

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u/Aikidopoi Dec 05 '21

“Yeah I’d like to place a collect call”

”You have selected: slow and horrible”

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u/Sabot15 Dec 05 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

Serious question: This device uses nitrogen asphyxiation, which seems like one of the easiest and least painful ways to go. (Not to mention, cost effective.) Why don't we use this for capital punishment instead of all these crazy expensive drugs that need to be administered by a highly trained professional who still gets it wrong from time to time?

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u/Never_Peel_a_Lemon Dec 05 '21

Important note about our capital punishment system. They are not highly trained professionals. In fact, doctors and nurses are not allowed to participate in death sentence procedures. It's just people with relatively minimal training performing the execution.

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u/Bullywug Dec 06 '21

Some states do have doctors take part. Others let prison directors choose the execution drugs without medical training. State by state laws make it a complete nightmare.

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u/dunnbass Dec 06 '21

And other convicts assisting in this process has been known to take place.

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u/MoonShadowArt Dec 05 '21 Helpful

Because nitrogen asphyxiation is painless.

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u/killerguppy101 Dec 05 '21

Because the 2 or 3 companies that make capital punishment drugs don't make money from nitrogen that you can pick up literally anywhere.

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u/as-well Dec 05 '21

Nah. Thiopental, which was used in the "original" lethal injection procedure, was dropped because a) the only US manufacturer stopped making it and when the states tried to source it from Europe, the EU banned export to the US. There's not a significant amount of money to be made there.

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u/EnergyMu Dec 05 '21

Is there a cancel button?

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u/BoJackB26354 Dec 05 '21 Silver

Yeah, but it works about as well as your printer’s cancel button.

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u/TheLemmonade Dec 05 '21 Helpful

You smash cancel repeatedly and then it promptly kills you 11 times in a row before swinging the door wide open and saying it’s ’jammed’

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u/Silurio1 Dec 05 '21

Oh boy, that must be a bitch to clean.

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u/TheLemmonade Dec 05 '21

Well that won’t be your problem, will it?

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u/Oraxy51 Dec 05 '21

When a bomb diffuser asked how he handles the pressure when diffusing a bomb he said “either my experience and training successfully diffuses it, or it’s not my problem anymore”.

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u/geeky_username Dec 05 '21

It might be even worse if the "suicide" button worked like a printer

"Yes"

Spooling error

"Kill me"

Door isn't closed all the way

"Kill me"

Jam detected.

"KILL ME"

Low chemical levels detected, replace.

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u/BoJackB26354 Dec 05 '21

"Killing blades cannot initiate until chemical cartridge is replaced."

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u/J_G_E Dec 05 '21

Cyan(ide) cartridge depleted.

"I ONLY WANTED A MONOCHROME DEATH!"

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u/Chispy Dec 05 '21

Schrödinger's human

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u/just_some_arsehole Dec 05 '21 Silver Wholesome

Cool... I look forward to dying in what appears to be optimus primes vibrator.

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u/bigbangbilly Dec 05 '21

More like Optimus Prime's Vape Pen

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u/jamanatron Dec 05 '21

Will I be vaped by an autobot after I die?

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u/bigbangbilly Dec 05 '21

Worst case scenario would be vaped by a Decepticons. Then again there's other factions like Maximals, Predacons, Terrorcons, Minicons, and many other factions

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u/Kashyyykonomics Dec 05 '21

This guy Transformers

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u/Shpooodingtime Dec 05 '21

Yeah why did they make it so cool and sporty looking?

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u/chryseusAquila Dec 05 '21

Yea they should have made it look like a coffin with like blue torches around it and a skelleton-automaton that opens it for you.

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u/MoreDetonation Dec 05 '21

There is no good way to design a suicide booth.

If you make it look soft and nu-tech/Apple-esque, it looks like a cheap dystopian movie prop. If you make it look harsh and mechanical, it looks like a cheap dystopian movie prop. If you make it look boxy and unattractive, it looks like a prop that was actually used in an episode of Star Trek. If you make it look like a racecar, you're communicating that suicide is badass.

Making it a booth was the worst way to do it.

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u/BumsYourDad Dec 05 '21

From the headline I assumed it was a medicine capsule that you pop. Seems it's closer to one person capsule hotel where the only thing you pop is your cloggs.

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u/cooterbreath Dec 05 '21

From the picture, I'd expect it to launch me into space. 🚀 Fly me to the moon.

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u/PinoForest Dec 05 '21 Helpful

🚀so i can kick its fucking ass

🚀lemme show it

🚀what i learned in moon jiujitsu class

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u/Claneater Dec 05 '21 Silver Wholesome

This is a terrible business, company won't be able to build any long-term customers..

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u/FarewellAndroid Dec 05 '21 Wholesome

No problem, they just need a cult following

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u/mad_wolffe Dec 05 '21

The first Sarco is being displayed at the Museum for Sepulchral Culture in Kassel, Germany from September 2021 to February 2022. The second turned out not to be aesthetically pleasing. For that and various other reasons it’s not the best one to use.

… various other reasons…..

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u/Osgood_Schlatter Dec 05 '21

If it only needs nitrogen, I wonder if US states struggling to find drugs to execute criminals will try to get hold of one so they can impose death sentences.

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u/blolfighter Dec 05 '21

I doubt it. This is old knowledge, people have used hypoxia to euthanise lab animals for decades. If they wanted to use this method they could have done it long ago.

If you're interested in the topic, I recommend the documentary "How to Kill a Human Being" from 2008. It concerns itself with "humane" execution methods.

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u/FoodForTheEagle Dec 05 '21

It's been known for a long time that nitrogen (or a noble gas substitute) is all that's needed. Look up induced hypoxia videos, which are intended to teach people why flying at high altitudes is dangerous if cabin pressure is lost. It's also the reason why flight attendants tell people to put their own oxygen mask on before assisting others in safety briefings. In the event of a loss of cabin pressure, pilots are supposed to put on their oxygen masks and rapidly descend from cruising altitude to an altitude where lack of oxygen won't cause problems.

The "why" of this should be taught so that people understand why they need to don their own mask first.

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u/disinformationtheory Dec 05 '21

This isn't cruel or unusual enough for executions.

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u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh Dec 05 '21

This. Nitrogen is easily available, doesn't pose a risk to the people clearing out the chamber afterwards, and it's less cruel. But no, the US had to go with hydrogen cyanide, just like Nazi gas chambers.

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u/NerdIsACompliment Dec 05 '21

I've always thought this. It's so simple, foolproof, and cheap. Literally just get a face mask and hook it up to a tank of N2. Painless, and no chance of bad side effects. At least keeps it humane.

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u/Jaytalvapes Dec 05 '21

Morphine OD would be my choice. Back in my party days I had a near death experience with it that I barely remember.

The only clear memory is a moment of thinking "I think I'm going to die, at least it doesn't hurt."

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u/grettp3 Dec 05 '21

Luckily that’s how some doctors DONT let end of life patients to do it. Doctors NEVER leave the morphine pump unlocked, NOT allowing for the willing patient to take their life if they wish. It NEVER happens.

But really, people should be allowed to choose how they want to leave. They should be allowed to choose if they’d like to end their suffering. If doctors do this, which I’ve heard of it happening but don’t know for sure, I’d say it’s okay.

Edit: obviously “do no harm yada yada” but that’s why you’re not overdosing them yourself. That’s why in states and country’s with MAID the patient has to take the drugs themselves.

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u/jeo123911 Dec 05 '21

That's why it's not used. Too many people feel the death penalty is not "justice" if the person killed feels no fear or pain.

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u/Ken_The_Bear Dec 05 '21

Personally I think they should go with the booth option.

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u/AKeeneyedguy Dec 05 '21

"you have chosen: slow and painful...

...you are now dead. Thank you for using 'Stop and Drop', America's #1 suicide booth since 2008."

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u/wellwaffled Dec 05 '21

Welp, I didn’t have anything else planned for today. Let’s get drunk!

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u/FoodForTheEagle Dec 05 '21

Uhhh...why would something this size be 3D printed? That seems horribly inefficient compared to more common fabrication techniques.

Though I guess efficiency is not playing a part in this since you can do the same thing with not much more than a cylinder of nitrogen and a $15 half-mask respirator.

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u/imr4wlik3sushi Dec 05 '21

I heard they come with a lifetime warranty

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u/TheJavaJive_ Dec 05 '21

Can't wait for this to get the greenlight in America so our fabulous healthcare industry can charge a generously low $45,000 to kill ourselves.

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u/odel555q Dec 05 '21 Helpful

Good luck swallowing that thing.

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u/killerguppy101 Dec 05 '21

Good news everyone! It's a suppository

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u/annonymus_galaxy2 Dec 05 '21

Does this make it painless suicide?

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u/Nyrin Dec 05 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

Yes. The use of a biologically inert gas (in this case nitrogen) sidesteps all the "suffocating" feeling — in something between a couple of long breaths and an extra 30 seconds or so, the individual goes through feelings of disorientation and euphoria and then loses consciousness.

The speed and lack of pain of this inert gas displacement is what makes these gases so potentially dangerous in industrial environments. There are occasionally accidents where people die from displacement before they even knew anything was happening, which is scary. This is a controlled application of that hypoxia/hypocapnia.

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u/moger777 Dec 05 '21

Why is this not used as a method of execution in states where the death penalty is used?

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u/TheProfessorOfNames Dec 05 '21

I believe the inert gas in this device is nitrogen, per the article

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u/mordinvan Dec 05 '21

So far as we can tell yes.

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u/eatfreshguy407 Dec 05 '21

So this is only slightly related, but if there is a pill/chair that can kill people with seemingly 100% effectiveness and no pain, why is the us using 100+ year old torture methods of electrocution and injections? Give them a choice to take the pill or sit in the pod. I’m sure both options would be safer, more humane, and more cost effective than what we are currently using.

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u/Raptor_H_Christ Dec 05 '21

As an ICU nurse here in the states I wish more people had an option like this. I’ve seen far to many people suffer for far too long knowing they didn’t want to

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u/nusodumi Dec 05 '21

:(

Thank you for being there for people who need help and company, when they can't get it and no one else is giving it

Your presence means a lot, especially to those people, even if it's just a job for you

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u/exoticbatmeat Dec 05 '21

This is great. Dignified dying should be a priority. Seeing people parked in care homes waiting for death is the cruelest thing we can do to human beings.

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u/komandanto_en_bovajo Dec 05 '21

I wish the culture in the US would change and allow people to choose to die with dignity and compassion like this. My grandfather was diagnosed with parkinsons 5 years ago and his health has started declining more rapidly as of late. He watched one of his best friends die from the same disease and I know how much it terrifies him to think of dying in the same manner. I cry when I think of what is in store for him in the near future.

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u/ArdenSix Dec 05 '21

It's truly horrific what many people go through caring for loved ones in pallative hospice care just waiting on them to finally pass. There's this cruel element of inhumaneness that comes with ensuring they are highly medicated and hopefully pain free. Caring for my Mother last year still haunts me.

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u/nusodumi Dec 05 '21

You loved your mother and did your best, with the tools available to you, and the info you had, to care for her. I'm sorry it wasn't easy and leaves you with haunting memories.

But that end is not a definition of your mother's life, and I hope you can compartmentalize the good memories from the bad ones, and continue to give the good memories the thought they deserve.

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u/I_post_rarely Dec 05 '21

~10 states have death with dignity laws so far.

https://deathwithdignity.org/learn/death-with-dignity-acts/

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u/komandanto_en_bovajo Dec 05 '21

It's a good start, but unfortunately I don't think he'd do it because of his and other family members beliefs. Hence my hope that the culture (not just the law) changes.

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u/Shpooodingtime Dec 05 '21

That's what my grandfather had, he was miserable for a very long time and I felt terrible for my grandmother. He ended up passing during a routine surgery for his hip.

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u/komandanto_en_bovajo Dec 05 '21

I'm very sorry to hear that. I hope that you have been able to find peace in knowing that he is no longer suffering.

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u/polopoto Dec 05 '21

swissidal tendancies

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u/academinx Dec 05 '21

All I can think is the suicide booth from futurama

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u/Claymationdude07 Dec 05 '21

My grandma has COPD. I’m visiting her next week because her breathing is getting terrible. I wish this was available in the US for her

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u/Enlightened-Beaver Dec 05 '21

We euthanize our pets when they are suffering, and no one has any issues. but somehow when it comes to people it’s problematic. Allowing someone to die with dignity on their own terms is the most humane thing you can do. Perpetuating their suffering is cruel.

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