r/mildlyinfuriating May 26 '22 Silver 5 Gold 1 LOVE! 1 This 1

My 11 year old sent these messages. It shouldn’t be like this.

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u/VitharrGaming May 27 '22

It's depressing. I'm 36 now, but I remember being 13 not long after Columbine happened. Going through the active shooter drills and one time when my school was locked down because of a possible threat. Terrifying and kids shouldn't still have to be going through this crap decades later.

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u/chickenisdelicious May 27 '22

Same generation as you, and yeah, I want to say Columbine happened my freshman year or so? That was the first big school shooting I remember and I agree, it's maddening that our kids are still going through the same rigmarole.

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u/VitharrGaming May 27 '22

I remember Columbine being "unimaginable". Adults talking about it for so long, and then the copycat scares. Took our school only a few weeks to start running active shooter drills. When I got to highschool our front doors were always locked and we had an active duty state patrolman sitting at the front desk. Going through that stuff really instills a sense of fear in a kid. It hurts, because we, as adults now, actively know the fear these kids feel as we lived through the start of it. It's sickening that nothing in all this time has been done.

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u/Argonaut_Not May 27 '22

Oh something has been done. Now the responsibility to survive a shooting has been shifted onto the students themselves, as opposed to anyone in a position of power cracking down on the root problem causing these shootings

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u/whysaylotword69 May 27 '22

And to teachers who should be expected to carry firearms. Do people even hear themselves? You want teachers to be required to put their lives on the line more than they already are in this situation, when they’re already overworked and underpaid, and don’t have firearm or deescalation training?? All because you’re worried about a slippery slope fallacy? It is insane.

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u/Revolutionary_Wash99 May 27 '22

At the point where there’s an active shooter in a school, de-escalation is just a faint hope. Part of the requirements for teachers to be able to possess firearms on school campuses would be firearm training. Nobody would agree to handing out firearms to untrained individuals. On top of that, the teachers doing it would be volunteering to do so.

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u/whysaylotword69 May 27 '22

Exactly. Teachers already go through extensive training and often put in over 50 hours a week. Shoving the responsibility onto them to take care of an active shooter is ridiculous. We don’t even pay them fully for the jobs they are hired to do. They aren’t police, social workers or counselors. Expecting teachers to go through more training on top of the drills and measures they already have to do is an outrageous demand.

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u/Sablemint PURPLE May 27 '22

and who would even pay for that if we did want it? Schools have like no budget as it is. And god knows the group of people pushing such things would freak out if taxes were raised to fund it.

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u/Unfair-District3186 May 27 '22

And then there's the dumb kids who want to cause panic. My high school had multiple threats written on bathroom walls or created as rumors just for their own sick selfish sense of humor.

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u/hlayres May 27 '22

If someone says unimaginable again tell them to use their fucking imagination. Or look at a newspaper. Or tv. Maybe use that tiny peabrain to imagine a better world that has CHANGED because change happens whether you like it or not, so fucking grow. Adapt. Change for fuck sake.

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u/bozeke May 27 '22

Back then it actually was unimaginable. There hadnt been anything like it before. The next closest thing at that point was maybe the clock tower shooter in the 60s.

Columbine was a big deal, and it opened the floodgates.

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u/Bertie637 May 27 '22

Combine it with the Internet, and suddenly you have a generation of lost kids with access to firearms (complex issue, I know) who thunk they can either settle all their grievances or get famous by shooting a bunch of classmates.

That's what partly gets me about this most recent shooting in Texas. The dumb kid seemingly just picked a primary school as he needed a school, not even necessarily because he had a grievance about there or some ideology. That's scary.

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u/GPCAPTregthistleton May 27 '22

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u/2019inchnails May 27 '22

The insane part is, they’re becoming more and more frequent. We have 27 school shootings so far this year, and that doesn’t even include grocery stores or churches.

What they’re calling “unimaginable” is just a regular Tuesday afternoon here in America

The issue is that money is and always will be more important than human life in a country that values money above all else, and guns are a lucrative industry

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u/cockroachmachete2 May 29 '22

Not even just the gun industry but honestly the main issue is mental health, a major change is that kids are now growing up in broken and abusive homes and that creates a lot more mental health issues leading up to causing the increased shootings

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u/Chelley449 May 27 '22

I grew up in Brooklyn. When I started high school in the late 80s, metal detectors were not uncommon. Sadly, school shootings are not new and weren’t even unheard of when Columbine happened. The difference is the assailants in NYC typically targeted their victims. The Columbine shooters were indiscriminate. Also, the NYC shootings typically took place in neighborhood schools (Brooklyn/Queens/Bronx, etc.) in poorer (more violent) police precincts, as opposed to campuses in the city. The discourse was different back then. Poor kids didn’t make the paper unless they harmed a different demographic.

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u/PsychologicalSnow476 May 27 '22

I'm so tired of "moments of silence", where are our "moments of being utterly pissed off because nothing is being done about the problem"?

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u/Whiteums May 27 '22

Personally, at my school (small town), we never took the lockdown drills all that seriously. We got under our desks and turned the lights off, but we were chit-chatting and just enjoying the break from work. Now, looking back, I guess I’m glad that we had the sort of practice that we had, though I’m glad we never had to utilize it.

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u/bondoh May 27 '22

nothing it all this time has been done

I understand what you are trying to say but from a purely factual point of view this is false.

I remember the day my school installed metal detectors and how it was suddenly common for public schools to have them.

I remember when school cops became more common (ie having a cop who’s entire “posting” was the school wasn’t always a thing in my lifetime. It became a thing as a result of shootings, among other things)

There was also lots of rule changes. Such as much stricter “zero tolerance” rules regarding violence and bullying.

Schools became much quicker to expel students.

and I can’t remember the name of it or if it even had an official name but post-columbine there were lots of ways for teachers and schools to essentially force a student to get therapy.

As in “you’ve been flagged by your school as a potential problem, and you can go to this mandatory therapy or you’re not allowed to come back to school”

It’s impossible to say how well any of these things worked. Obviously shootings have happened since but we literally can’t know if these things prevented one that would’ve otherwise happened.

But either way it’s not like “nothing has been done” The stuff I listed was done. And more. But nothing is 100% effective

(And maybe what you really mean is certain things you wanted to see don’t haven’t been done)

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u/LuxuryBeast May 27 '22

Nothing of what you are listing is gonna stop someone from shooting up a school, except maybe the cop. Unless he's a Uvalde cop, ofc.

The only thing that can stop this is a cultural change especially on the view of guns being the answer to solve problems.

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u/tedclev May 27 '22

The chickenshit GOP always balks after these shootings and says "now isn't the time for politics or to discuss this." The chickenshit Dems seem incapable of forcing the issue. It turns into a bunch of political theater and kids keep getting killed in "the greatest country on earth." And then there's the police and security guards... Holy shit. I can't begin to express my disgust for those assholes that could have done something but pissed themselves instead.

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u/therealpoltic May 27 '22

Well, it would be nice to be armed. Speaking as a security guard. — Not all clients or sites are equal…. And half the time, the liability for us is 10 fold versus the police.

I asked an armed guard once, for a bank, what the company told him to do if there was an active shooter or robbery.

He told me, that they told him to “hand over your gun, and lay on the ground” rather than defend the people or the property.

We need to change liability laws, if we want security to take a more active role in protection.

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u/Sablemint PURPLE May 27 '22

They're told to do that because its just money. If the person robbing it just wants to take the money, let them. The money can be easily tracked.

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u/Due_Possibility_8114 May 27 '22

Upvote for rigmarole!

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u/Stock-Hippo9570 May 27 '22

In my generation, we were ducking and covering under our desks to practice for a nuclear attack from the Soviets and thought we'd all die.

Will kids ever get to just be kids?

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u/pancakehouze420 May 27 '22

The biggest thing I was scared of was a twister. A Texas sized twister.

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u/friendlyfire69 May 27 '22

I remember being locked down for 5 hours in school with my head between my legs once due to tornados. I remember being exhausted at school because of hiding in my neighbor's basement all night from tornados. I remember the horrible sound of a tornado passing right by the school. I remember a student came to school once and said half their house was destroyed in a tornado.

None of that is half as scary as an intruder lockdown...there were a couple instances in highschool that turned out to be false alarms. it was so scary being told to stay put when all I wanted to do was bust out the window and RUN.

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u/VitharrGaming May 27 '22

Before 99 the biggest thing we worried about in school were tornados as well. Oddly we had earthquake drills as well despite not being in a place that had them, but still we weren't scared to go to school at least.

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u/KFR42 May 27 '22

As someone from the UK I can't even begin to imagine this kind of reality. As a parent I find it even harder to imagine sending my children to school everyday with the very real threat of this happening and that time after time those people who have the power to make changes do nothing but make hollow speeches about thoughts and prayers. I really hope something changes, I really do.

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u/Radiant-Function-372 May 27 '22

If the nra doesn't want change,there will be no change. They own the elephants.

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u/wodwick May 27 '22

Nailed it. From an overseas observer, the pro gun sentiment is pushed by the NRA......no way they want guns banned, or even curtailed slightly

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u/Better-be-Gryffindor May 27 '22

Yep, I'm 36 as well. We had so many threats, and bomb threats... atone point in time, in my sophomore year they found two pipe bombs in our gym. A couple of people had active lists and were actually going to shoot people, and a few others it was people from a neighboring school who just wanted their favorite fuckbuddy free for the day/weekend. It was disgusting, but also terrifying each time. Because, what if it was real? It was rural fucking Wisconsin in a little town with less than 2000 people who live there, everyone and their fucking grandmother has/had guns. It was a very real possibility.

I worry about all my younger cousins, and my sister-in-laws kids. Like, come the fuck on people. :(

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u/King_Trasher May 27 '22

I went to school entirely in post-columbine America. They did live drills where teachers would come banging on the door and looking through the windows, yelling if they saw anyone.

It got worse in high school. Worthless police officers showed up and made a game out of it. I overheard one of the teachers say they went through some kind of live training at a convention.

This is the only country this happens. Why has it been the reality for 2 decades of school children to fear outsiders, hoping they wouldn't be the next recipient of the useless thoughts and prayers?

No fucking wonder we have more mental health problems than ever before in this shithole of a modern nation. We constantly fear for our lives as the people who are supposed to protect us actively sell our future and our rights to the highest peddlers of goods and services

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u/2019inchnails May 27 '22

Insane to me that we would rather go through shooting drills or send our kids to school in a plate carrier than actually do something about the accessibility of firearms.

I agree, shooting drills are helpful, but how is it that we have had shooting drills for decades but haven’t done anything about the accessibility of assault rifles?

It feels like we as a country have a deeply ingrained problem with victim blaming

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u/giantsnyy1 May 27 '22

I’m 35. I was still 12, and in 7th grade when Columbine happened. My middle school was locked down just days afterward, because a group of kids started dressing in trench coats, called themselves the “trench coat mafia” like the columbine kids did, and left ticking clocks in kids lockers, claiming there were bombs everywhere.

This happened several more times over the years, plus countless lockdown drills.

This should never be normal. I don’t want my 4 year old growing up in a country like this. It’s ridiculous. All this because people put their WANTS over the need of safety of children.

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u/adultinglikewhoa May 27 '22

I remember those days all too well. Active shooter drills take me back to bomb threats, about 20-ish years ago, back when I was in high school. I have a ten year old daughter, who is a latchkey kid, and we just bought her a smart watch (made for kids) in case anything happens. I’m terrified that she’ll have to use it, one day…

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u/stormyberry May 27 '22

Same generation. I was in 7th grade when Columbine happened. 23 years later and the only thing that’s changed is how often it happens. It’s maddening. I mean really, I cry and get mad … and I just feel like I’m going insane. I feel helpless for these kids because I remember how fucking terrified I was as I watched Columbine’s aftermath unfold on tv. They’re just kids and this country has failed them.

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u/TheLysdexicGentleman May 27 '22

I used to talk to the man who was the Principle during this (I used to go to the same Church), absolutely heart wrenching to listen to what he has to say (I was only 5 at the time). The parents of those shooters didn't want to invade their kids'privacy, they recorded a bunch of times saying they were going to do it, Frank talks about watching those and I could see that there was part of him still wondering if he could've done something different. This shit is awful and there needs to be more controls in place and make mental healthcare normal.

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u/bondoh May 27 '22

What’s awful is it seemed like it died down for a long time.

After columbine there was a long stretch

Then sandy hook.

But it felt like there was years where I didn’t hear about any school shootings

Now it feels like it’s “common” in comparison.

Columbine was like 9/11 in a way where it felt so unique and changed the game.

That’s why the word is still synonymous with shootings and there’s been so many documentaries and stuff

But now it’s like “dang there’s been another one”

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u/Binky390 May 27 '22

I'm also 36 and work at a school who of course does those drills, but also brought in a consultant to discuss active shooter situations in general. He played the 911 call the librarian made during the Columbine shooting. I'm usually a very stoic person and few things make me react emotionally if at all. It's a combination of not really being an emotional person and years of customer service/IT. I wanted to burst into tears when he played that call.

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u/PeggyDeadlegs May 27 '22

I’m the same age and I remember Columbine, it was only a few years after Dunblane which was our worst (and last) school shooting here in the UK, so it was still pretty raw. As a parent I can’t imagine what it’s like to send your kids to school in that environment

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u/JustAnother_Brit May 27 '22

This still happens in the UK and we’ve had one school shooting total

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u/smallangrybean May 27 '22

I didn’t remember this until I saw other people talking about it, but I remember being in elementary ? Or middle school? And the principal coming by the classroom during an active shooter drill to bang on the door while we were hiding in the dark to see if we would open the door.

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u/VitharrGaming May 27 '22

I remember that exact drill. The teacher would close the door and lock it and we'd all get down away from windows. Scary stuff.

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u/FarFromFaith33 May 27 '22

My friends and I wore trenchcoats way before columbine happened. After that shooting, the school would check us every morning because of threats called in. Thing was, it wasn't us. I DO know, it was some of the "preps" as they were called, that did it.

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u/peanutupthenose May 27 '22

i so badly want to be like “my kid isn’t having a phone until later” but it’s texts like these & from personal experience of knowing that schools don’t notify parents immediately or even at all sometimes that makes me rethink it.

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u/MarsRT May 27 '22

you could give them a dumbed down smartphone with a cheap android phone and some apps if you want them to text you but you don’t want them to do much or anything else.

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u/Tandemdonkey May 27 '22

The other problem with your kid not having a phone is that you are dooming them to be a social outcast and have a high likelihood of creating a situation where they have no genuine friends

I'm speaking from personal experience here, I graduated from highschool last year, I didn't have a phone until freshman year of highschool, and it set me back majorly, without one, it is completely impossible to consistently make plans with people, often times it's impossible to be included at all, as plans are often not thought about ahead of time, and even when they are, I can't think of a single instance when people knew an exact place and time in person other than when they were planning on going to a particular even, a lot of things are done spontaneously, and people aren't going to go all the way to your house just to check if you might want to come along, over the summers you might as well forget that having friends is even an option, I'm not a socially inept person, generally most people like me, basically no one has problems with me, and I even had plenty of people I was friends with while at school, but not having a phone makes it virtually impossible to have a healthy social life, so despite the drawbacks of your kid having a phone(like the possibility of them having an unhealthy social life thanks to social media) I would personally strongly recommend against these courses of action

I genuinely plead anyone reading this who is planning on not allowing their kid a phone to not take this lightly, your kid could get incredibly lucky and have a fine time without a phone, but I really can't recommend banking on it as to whether or not your kid looks back fondly on their childhood

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u/EarsLookWeird May 27 '22

I'm mid-30's and all of my friends had cheapo phones or beepers when I was in high school and I didn't and it fucked with me too at the time - big ++

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u/Matasa89 May 27 '22

Lol I was forced to not have a phone because family broke af, and boy, am I glad I’m a social outcast to begin with!

Can’t blame the lack of phone for my lack of social life, I’m just a natural basement troll.

… how the fuck do I even have a group of friends, I’ll never know.

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u/The_Metroid May 27 '22

Walmart actually still sells flip-phones to my surprise. (Found out because my parent's phones that ran on 3G were rendered useless when 3G was phased out and they wanted new phones that weren't smartphones)

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u/MarsRT May 27 '22

yeah, but i would still use a cheap android smartphone in this case as texting would be easier, and you can really lock the phone down if you know what you’re doing.

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u/Mountains_2_Sea May 27 '22

My kids school is strict no phones. Has to stay in the backpack or it gets taken away. I told them fuck that. It stays with you no matter what and if the teachers have a problem with it they can call me. I hate I brought kids into a world where they are in perpetual fear of dying at school. They have their own plans of what to do and where to go ‘when it happens’. In elementary school they wouldn’t use the bathroom because they didn’t want to be somewhere they couldn’t get out of ‘when it happens’. That was after a high school shooting right down the street. They talk about the kids that ‘would definitely shoot up the school’. They know to be nice to everyone even the weird or mean kids so they don’t end up on a kill list. I hate this country and I am consumed with sadness and rage. Please make it stop.

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u/edjodapro May 27 '22

Give them a phone, impossible to become part of friend groups etc without them, same with social media, just check in with them. They can’t make friends, or make plans with friends without one, as well a socials to communicate with

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u/Oreo_Mochi May 27 '22

My 12 yo has a phone but they are required to have them off and will get them confiscated if they make sound or they see students using them during the school day. My kid is a rule follower and always has his phone off. In case of an emergency like this I wouldn’t even get a text because he would have to turn it on and wait until it worked. I got my kid a phone when he turned 10 and he has never been obsessed with using it all the time and he isn’t in social media or discord or anything like that. That is fine with me. Being overly obsessed would not work for me.

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u/primkolor May 27 '22

I think you should have a bit of an ‘internet safety’ talk, put some parental controls in place, and then go for it. It’s important for kids to be able to contact their parents or emergency numbers conveniently, especially nowadays. Shit happens, and it’s important for people of all ages to be prepared.

Depending on your kids age, its probably appropriate to check their phone now and then too if you’re still worried.

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u/Anusbagels May 27 '22

I was the same way but I gave in to the wife’s wishes and honestly I don’t regret it. It’s nice knowing he can contact me any time. On top of that he doesn’t bother with social media at all and mainly uses it to watch videos, play games or FaceTime with his best friends who live 100 or more miles away. Although he does annoyingly ignore my wife and my texts most of the time 😂

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u/adultinglikewhoa May 27 '22

Yep! I just got my ten year old a kids smart watch, just in case she feels like it’s necessary to talk to me. I’m scared to death she’ll have to use it, one day…

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u/ShinyHead80 May 27 '22

Must be hard for kids without phones when all their friends do. I get it as a parent but at the same time they miss out on a lot of stuff and interactions with others, when it’s one of the most important things in their lives

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u/garbage_lyd May 26 '22

Breaks my heart 😔

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u/Beneficial_Car2596 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Isn’t it an absolutely insane idea that a gun toting man can come into school. An establishment full of children.

Like it’s hard to fathom as someone’s who’s not American. But far out, I could never imagine sending a kid off to fend for themselves, scared and alone against a maniac. And to think the dangerous thing I had to deal with in school was not using sunscreen and wearing a hat while playing out. America you gotta do something, not saying you should ban guns, but some actual action for once would be better than apologising

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u/dankinator87 May 27 '22

We as Americans think so too. Our government is shit and only cares about getting paid by our taxes that they only use to make themselves richer

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u/DownvoteGrinder May 27 '22

The government makes a lot of money off of gun laws, since Americans base their personality off of guns and violence. So until America isn’t corrupt, which will likely never happen, nothing will change.

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u/Omnizoom May 27 '22

I love south parks take on this with the marsh family , Stan was more concerned he flunked his math test and only his mother was upset about the shooter

It really shows how tone deaf families have become and normalized it’s become that in 1-2 weeks it will be business as usual until the next shooting

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u/ComplexDisaster5242 May 27 '22

Of course that’s the American way. Over 40,000 deaths every year on our roads and highways the number one copper to speeding. Where is the outrage talk about something that can be avoided easily!

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u/Omnizoom May 27 '22

“Sport” driving as they refer to it here usually gets your license pulled , but theirs still to many reckless drivers to the number getting pulled over and I’ve seen so many accidents in the news

Last year a mother and 3 kids all died in a crash with a lunatic going 160kmh that was on the wrong side

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u/Mollieteee May 26 '22

I love seeing the empathy you give your child, nice job, Pops! ❤️

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u/chickenisdelicious May 26 '22

Thank you! She’s a good girl so she makes it easy for me.

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u/YungNigget788 May 27 '22

I've been in 3 lockdowns during my school years

one in elementary, one in middle school, and one this year in high school

each one gives you the same out-of-body feeling each time and every single news story you've heard about shootings plays in your mind

I'm sorry your child had to experience that, hopefully it's the only time that happens

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u/ChiefFlats May 27 '22

My senior year a kid called in a threat during school hours and we went into a full lockdown. It lasted like 30 minutes and we heard swat team running past the doors. It was super scary and all of us that we’re 18 signed ourselves out after it ended

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u/Forward-Bid-1427 May 26 '22

I have two kids. Schools go into soft lockdown with surprising frequency. Sometimes it’s police activity in the surrounding area, sometimes it’s because a kid got stuck in the elevator between floors.

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u/Stetson007 May 27 '22

Yeah, back when I was in highschool, some dude robbed the CVS down the road and ran into the school to avoid being caught. He got caught, but we went into lockdown. Another time, the SRO had to arrest some guy because he was walking around the cafeteria, and when the SRO stopped him and questioned him, he replied "I'm looking for love." SRO arrested him for trespassing. I talked pretty frequently with the SRO (not in a bad way, he was really chill) and he told me a bunch of stories like that from his days as a cop. He retired the year before I graduated, and he deserved it. He was a damn good SRO.

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u/hotd0ginahallway May 27 '22

And yet there are countries in the world that have no idea what school lockdowns are because they havent had a mass shooting of any kind in their country for 30+ years. Gee I wonder where America is going wrong? /s

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u/DanteJazz May 27 '22

In the US, there was a time, before Columbine, there were no school shootings. There were no school lockdowns, no active shooter drills. Schools were safe places to be. It is a direct result of the incredible proliferation of guns. There used to be movies with fist fights in them--because in reality, people didn't have easy access to machine gun-type weapons. I call the Bullshit of the Gun Runners--they are ONE major cause of this endless violence. There are many other causes, but if that 18 year old didn't have an automatic weapon, he couldn't have killed so many people. The other cause is rooted in some weird Ideology of gun ownership, fear, violence, and somehow rooted in the whole slavery legacy of violence. The first step to solving this is simple: citizens don't need automatic weapons.

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u/Leviathan56 May 27 '22

That's why our school had a "clear the halls" drill, which was lock the doors, close the blinds, but otherwise continue. If a big maintenance issue or medical emergency happened we would do that instead of lockdown so class could continue and everyone wouldn't freak out

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u/CptnCankles May 26 '22

They lockdown schools because a kid gets stuck in an elevator? What in the ever loving hell?

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u/Forward-Bid-1427 May 26 '22

They had to call in the fire department and so the principal made an announcement telling teachers not to release the kids to go to their next classes when the bell rang. They didn’t elaborate and so some of the kids(including mine) assumed the worst. My daughter doesn’t have a cell phone yet, on are walk home she commented that she kinda thought they were about to get murdered. When you’ve had murderer drill in school since the age of 5, your brain is just going to go to that place.

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u/Far-Swimming3092 May 27 '22

Murderer drills. Shiver. I just finished my last year teaching.

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u/The_Lego_Maniac May 26 '22

Yeah, sometimes if a kid is having some kind of medical thing like a seizure or whatever they will do a soft lock down so other kids don't get in the way of the EMTs (idk what they are called)

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u/dankinator87 May 27 '22

It’s terrible. I may actually give my kid a phone earlier than I ever expected to just because of stuff like this

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u/cascaderade May 27 '22

you should. it doesn't have to be some crazy smart phone, but teach them how to text message and make phone calls quickly during emergencies. these days its just necessary

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u/dankinator87 May 27 '22

Luckily she isn’t born yet but when she’s older I’m definitely going to do that. It’s just too dangerous lately to not have a way to contact anyone

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u/ExquisiteGene May 27 '22

4:26pm? Damn. How late are they keeping 11 year olds at school now?

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u/_yeetingmyself May 27 '22

From my experience of going into lockdown, they’ll keep kids for longer until the threat is completely gone. When my class went into lockdown back in high school, they kept us past the bell to let kids out because they weren’t sure if it was safe. I think we stayed til around 3:45-3:50.

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u/ExquisiteGene May 27 '22

I agree with that. And maybe this is real. But why is the dad not freaking out and asking where they’ve been??? If this was my kid and I didn’t hear from them after school I’d be losing my shit

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u/gemorris9 May 27 '22

They aren't. This is fake.

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u/CampTouchThis May 27 '22

right? i’m scrolling through the comments thinking i must be crazy cause no one else is saying this. like the tone just feels like a script

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u/adaquo May 27 '22

Sadly yeah. Especially with conveniently misspelled words. Smh man

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u/L2Hiku May 27 '22

It's 100% fake 😂😂😂😂

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u/Kyfigrigas May 27 '22

I mean I'm at school untill 4:10, the kid might not have messaged their dad immediately after they got out. Also, as someone who was recently at school when a lockdown happened, they aren't gonna let you out when schools over, you're there untill the threat is gone. If they have to they'll keep you there all night.

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u/ExquisiteGene May 27 '22

That’s why I brought it up

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u/JoolzCheat May 27 '22

I just assumed they were in a different timezone 🤷‍♂️

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u/Song-Unlucky May 27 '22

your kid goes to school in a different time zone? also unlikely since it seems like OP lives in florida

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u/JoolzCheat May 27 '22

Sure, I read it as a kid messaging their parent who, for whatever reason, was in a different timezone. Travelling for work, for example.

I’m not saying that is OPs case, I’m saying that was my assumption when I saw the time.

I guess it probably would seem farfetched to people who have never travelled though

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u/The-Legend-Of-KK May 27 '22

After school programs are a thing

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u/aspacejunkie May 27 '22

this text doesn’t imply his son sent the text during the lockdown? he very much so could’ve sent it after school…

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u/German_Irish_chicken May 27 '22

i mean they go to school later than middle/high school so... maybe?

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u/Vegesaurus-Rex May 27 '22

I read a post the other day but an Australian teacher who was showing around a family around the school, who had just moved from the US. The seven year old boy was so excited that he would be able to wear his shoes with the flashing lights to school. He couldn't wear them in his old school because it coukd make him a target for a shooter in a lockdown situation. Blew my damn mind and brought a tear to my eye. I can't imagine being scared of going to school.

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u/TrueXarkos May 27 '22

I disagree with this post slightly. This isn't mildly infuriating. THIS IS MASSIVELY INFURIATING! Fuck every single politician, lobbyist, and greedy SOB that puts money and a political career ahead of human lives. I don't even blame the gun enthusiasts and other 2nd supporters, they're just victims of propaganda. But fuck those other assholes that are willing to sacrifice children for profit. I don't believe in hell but I pray I'm wrong just because everyone of those assholes belongs there.

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u/bonesbegintoshatter May 27 '22

FAH

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u/ExquisiteGene May 27 '22

That’s why I asked the question above why they are keeping 11 year olds in school at 4:26pm.

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u/CharlesB32 May 27 '22

What does fah mean?

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u/bonesbegintoshatter May 27 '22

fake as he**

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u/Creaturemaster1 May 27 '22

You don't need to censor hell

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u/CharlesB32 May 27 '22

Oh ywah, most likely its fake lol

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u/SavedMountain May 27 '22

who’s he?

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u/Knee_Kill_Money_Yen May 27 '22

How is it that Americans lose their shit when someone says pro-life or pro-choice and still stay calm when your kid had to dodge bullets at school?

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u/eebibeeb May 27 '22

I’m 19 now and was a sophomore in high school when the parkland shooting happened. My school is in a neighboring state to Florida and we held a walkout/moment of silence where a student who had friends at that school spoke, and another event in which a teacher that worked at our school who used to work at Parkland spoke.

In retrospect I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea to discuss this, but they said our school and area was almost exactly like theirs, just to show how something completely unexpected in a seemingly really good area can happen. Not sure why they thought telling a bunch of high schoolers in almost these exact words “it could happen to us too” was a good idea, but they did.

Exactly a year later, February 14th, I skipped class to avoid a test and was in the bathroom of the bottom floor when we went on lockdown due to a threat that someone was gonna shoot up the school, with my Valentine’s Day chocolate and stuffed animal, thinking of what I would do if someone did show up and come in that bathroom. I was 16 fearing for my life in a school bathroom. NO ONE, of any age, should have to feel like that at school.

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u/ExpensiveYam8508 May 27 '22

As a Canadian I have a question. When are kids going to be more important than your right to own guns?

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u/chickenisdelicious May 27 '22

Mine already are to me! But I get where you're coming from. Unfortunately our politicians have shown they don't care what the majority of people want; just look at our policies on marijuana, abortion, and of course guns are like.

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u/GodModder54 May 27 '22

Honestly? Probably never. This country is run by a bunch of old white men. Wanna know what they love? Guns and power. Wanna know what they hate? Kids. They will do anything to protect themselves but making this country safer and more livable and keeping it moving in a positive direction? Nah. They will 100% run this country into the ground. White men need to be out of power in this country.

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u/GodModder54 May 27 '22

Did you know that abortion is illegal in The US again? A man can rape a woman and (if he has money) not do a single day in prison. But if a woman GETS RAPED and becomes pregnant due to that rape, she will go to prison if she has it aborted ☺️ this country hates women, children, people of color, and most of all….. change.

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u/mariabrinkfan82 May 27 '22

Same age 11 my son said they had a similar situation where there were cops everywhere and on lockdown. (He does not live with me). I remember the Columbine shootings when I was a kid. I was close to the same age. I just tried to say it'll be okay and that the cops are there and he would be safe. I just reassured him the best I could.

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u/icywings100 May 27 '22

its sad to see this happen but u are awesome for being a great supportive parent. everyone needs that support to talk

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u/WallStreetPhysicist May 27 '22

On 24 May 2022 President Biden Wrote:

As a nation we must ask: When in God's name will we stand up to the gun lobby?

When in God's name will we do what needs to be done?

I'm sick and tired of it. We have to act.

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u/Chupacabralala May 27 '22

This is every day for me. I am a teacher. My children are not allowed to be children. They have to endure lockdown drills and funerals for classmates killed in random gunfights.

Going to the funeral of ONE student is too many.

I’ve been to two. One child 5, one child 6. Shot to death.

And just weeks ago my students were only feet away from a rolling shoot out. I am so thankful that we got all of the kids safely inside.

I don’t want to go to another child’s funeral because some fucking assholes need to have their gunses. Their tiny penises are THEIR issue and I am sick of children being murdered because of it.

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u/maxtacos May 27 '22

That's so awful, I'm sorry you've had two losses in your career. I'm very fortunate that all of my students who have been shot have survived.

Yesterday in my classroom, we went into lockdown during the nutrition break because of a shooting down the street. And of course all the adults are extra shook yesterday. My students said, "Is that all?" and whined because they wanted to go out and get their snacks. I wanted to cry, that gun violence is so normal that they don't even worry about it. They just casually let it slip that their older brother was murdered and then they move on all hardened.

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u/ForwardMuffin May 27 '22

What happened with the kids? Please ignore this completely if you don't want to discuss

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u/RubyWillBeatYou May 26 '22

I can't imagine the anxiety one would feel going to school in a place where shootings happen, even if they are uncommon. Where I live they are practically unheard of, so I feel really bad when I hear about it happening elsewhere. I hope you and your daughter are safe

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u/chickenisdelicious May 26 '22

We're great, thank you for your concern. It was indeed a false alarm but we talk openly about things so when the lockdown was called, she knew about what happened a few days ago and it freaked her out a bit. But kids are nothing if not resilient.

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u/gemorris9 May 27 '22

It's fake af bro. I'm with you for the same reasons. Dudes response to you is whack as fuck too lol. I have my phone off at the office.

Okay....

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u/NoAlarmsPlease May 27 '22

Human being all over the word with common sense: “children being murdered at school is an outrage and as a society the US should take real actionable measures to ensure it doesn’t happen.”

Dumbledores_nutsack: Stupid leftists and your dumb agenda!

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u/ExquisiteGene May 27 '22

I’m leaning the same way. I hope it’s fake actually. But why is an 11yr old in school at almost 4:30pm? And why isn’t Dad wondering why the hell she is at school at 4:30?

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u/TrueXarkos May 27 '22

Extra curriculars or after school daycare. Both were options when I was in elementary school clear back in the 80s and I myself was in a daycare at the elementary school until my mom finished her 9-5 when I was growing up.

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u/gemorris9 May 27 '22

I agree dude. I'm almost certain this is fake af.

11 year old gets locked in a closet with almost no context. Never says it's a drill. Nada. And then he's just I'm sorry that happened. No mention of asthma attack, got your inhaler, was it a drill, no questioning how long or why or yada yada. Nothing. 11 year old uses double parentheses to break up thought process or further explain but "misspelled" recent.

Gtfo

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u/_BoredAccountant May 26 '22

Hugs to your child ! 💛

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u/chickenisdelicious May 26 '22

Thank you! So happy it was a false alarm.

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u/crayonfire12 May 27 '22

Fake.

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u/ovalseven May 27 '22

Yes. This post is better suited for /r/cringe.

This convo ranks up there with this one.

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u/Tortilla123872 May 27 '22

All 3 years I was actually in high school (remote for the last year) we had some sort of lockdown. We had 2 hard lockdowns and people were actively texting family members just incase. Once there was a kid caught near some classrooms and all the journalism kids heard the cops calling him out and 1/2 of them went home early. This year people found bullets in the high school and sibling had to send a message to our parents like this one. It’s absolute bs we gotta go thru this year by year.

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u/McTee967 May 27 '22

That's heartbreaking, but I love that your child is that open with you and I love how you responded.

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u/pronicegirl May 27 '22

It should never be like this 💔

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u/RONIN9201 May 27 '22

I wish I had father like that

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u/HowtoUninstallSkype May 27 '22

The only fucking country where this happens is the US. I am not saying this simply to talk shit about the US, but I mean; look at basically every other country and how they do it. There is so much information out there to solve and prevent this shit.

Especially when looking at Australia. They had a problem similar to that of the US and completely fixed it.

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u/minosin May 27 '22

Well now I'm just sitting here crying for your kid. Gah. I cannot even imagine what it is like sending kids to school in the states.

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u/_yeetingmyself May 27 '22

God, when i was about 15-16, we had a lockdown in class. I was in chemistry and we were all crammed in a closet in the back of the classroom, and no one knew what was happening. My first thoughts were to book it out of the classroom and find my boyfriend and sister, but of course I couldn’t, so I just stood there in that dark room and started the process of accepting I could possibly die.

I was fucking 16. I was a kid. A kid in high school who was learning about ions or whatever. And I was getting annoyed at one of the girls for crying that we were going to die because she would’ve alerted the shooter. I was accepting my own possible death at 16 years old at school, a safe place.

Turns out it was someone who walked into the school with some sort of bullet/stab wound and the school went into lockdown just in case, but god, that was the day I started despising the gun laws in this country.

It was only a couple of years later after I graduated that someone brought a gun and bullets to that same school that my siblings were still going to. The kid wasn’t expelled.

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u/irobot_67 May 27 '22

I'm so damn glad i don't live in the USA

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u/Waste-Carpenter-8035 May 27 '22

Ugh this makes me so so sad.

I remember my high school (over a decade ago) decided to do an active shooter drill one day. They used rubber bullets to insinuate a realistic event. So many students did not show up to school that day.

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u/UglyDucky_00 May 27 '22

It’s is so weird and sad to me. I grew up in a relatively dangerous country but I never felt unsafe inside my school. My school was always a safe place for me.

We have crime and lots of illegal guns around, but school shooting are not a thing.

I remember when I came to study in Canada (that is also not that common) and we had a drill. I was shocked… I thought it was the most unreal thing ever. And it’s sad that people can’t feel safe inside their schools/unis in NA.

A kid should have to grow up like that. This is heartbreaking

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u/nicolai8372 May 27 '22

That your kids has to experience this is not mildly infuriating. That's extremely infuriating.

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u/buttsnorkler9000 May 27 '22

So, we realize this is fake right?

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u/gemorris9 May 27 '22

Absolutely agree. Karma farming and definitely the fakest conversation I've ever seen. I have a 10 year old. He's not gonna text me he loves me and then casually move into he got lockdown and don't know if there was a shooter but there someone and then we just move to the "resent" shooting.

Fuck outta here

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u/Eoppa May 27 '22

Fuck the "I'm happy you thought to reach out" bullshit. This happened at my daughter's school last year (lockdown because of an unidentified and possibly armed man inside the school). She messaged me at work and told me it was over but that she had been terrified and had been on the brink of a panic attack. My reply was "hold on kiddo, I'm on my way" and I left work immediately and drove straight to the school to get her and take her home. I sure as hell wasn't leaving her to endure the rest of the school day traumatized like that.

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u/gemorris9 May 27 '22

Yeah well that's because you have a daughter. This dude is fake af. My 10 year old doesn't talk or text like that either.

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u/GardeniaPhoenix PURPLE May 27 '22

My issue is like, my bf and I went to a local music show recently. They had metal detectors and security guards at the door.

I know -some- schools do this, but clearly it needs to be more common.

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u/gemorris9 May 27 '22

This school has 5 cops and a security guard. The guy shot at them first and then went in the school. They sat outside and waited for backup. A special team of border agents heard the call, loaded up their gear and went in and killed the guy without back up.

The metal detector wouldn't have done anything here. It wasn't a sneak attack. This is the security guard/cops being cowards.

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u/GardeniaPhoenix PURPLE May 27 '22

Jfc don't take a job like that if you're not gonna do it.

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u/stephanielmayes May 27 '22

Not mildly infuriating. Inexcusable. We have to do something. 90% of us support better gun laws, 90%. They could at least pass the laws we actually agree on, but they refuse.

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u/trevor12121212 May 27 '22

So this is fake huh?

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u/DuckyDude21 May 27 '22

A school in my city got locked down today too. Except in that school's case a kid actually brought a gun (I don't think anyone was hurt.)

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u/chickenisdelicious May 27 '22

That’s ridiculous that someone got a gun in so shortly after this most recent tragedy. I’m glad no one ended up getting hurt in either of our scenarios.

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u/Ordinaryyetunique May 27 '22

I’m so sorry that that have to go through what they don’t deserve.That 11 yo seems mature tho.

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u/Natee__ May 27 '22

Your an amazing dad just gotta let u know man

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u/chickenisdelicious May 27 '22

Thank you, I try my best for my kiddos. It's been really weird reading peoples' comments that say it doesn't seem like how a parent should/does talk to an eleven year old. She's practically in middle school now, so she talks in a pretty mature manner. Don't see why that's so odd! Anyway, sorry to rant, but I appreciate your kind comment.

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u/Natee__ May 27 '22

Yeah no worries man! Don't let random strangers try to judge the way u parent others :)

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u/jhsreal May 27 '22

I love the way you speak to your child. Very validating of their emotions. I hope they're okay :(

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u/t0ldyouso May 27 '22

hi dad I love you

My heart 💝💝💝

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u/lolbellpeppers May 27 '22

Heartbreaking. Also, your child has pretty damn good grammar and spelling for being 11. That looked like an adult texted you.

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u/clajobe May 27 '22

That poor baby! 😢 This is heart wrenching. That baby should be thinking about summer vacation plans and playing outside definitely should not be in a closet worrying about an asthma attack or if they’re going to make it through the day. 💔

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u/Mach0311 May 27 '22

Our society creates depressed and deranged individuals that we do not have the mechanism to separate them (asylums) because those are deemed inhumane. It’s ok though do some more internet, play more video games, eat processed foods, go to school 8-3 everyday and do 3 hours of homework, rinse repeat, go crazy.

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u/CaptainDigesto May 27 '22

Idk if this counts as mildly infuriated. This is extremely tragic

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u/jrobharing May 27 '22

(A) I agree 100%

(B) they let 11 y/o’s bring cellphones to school?

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u/AdDisastrous6738 May 27 '22

Like most jobs, you can have it and there are rules about it’s usage. Even if they said you couldn’t have one, I’d send one with my kid anyway. Emergencies become far less frantic.

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u/Sweaty-Ad4017 May 27 '22

I’m 40 years old now , and I remember that in my final year in elementary school about 95-96 , they had a lockdown because some one got in the building by not using the main Entrance ,, it was all a simple mistake , and it was a normal thing to do (lockdown) when this happened ,, obviously this was before the Columbine shooting , now , I get that when there’s a lock down sadly the first thing that comes to your mind is a shooting ,,, I don’t know why schools over there down south don’t have security ?? Over here in NYC , depending on the location you might even find armed police security in the building ..

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u/deathlesslamia May 27 '22

This isn't mildly infuriating. It's enraging government officials still stand against gun laws

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u/The-Legend-Of-KK May 27 '22

I’m angry that your child and children all across America have to go through the fear of dying just from trying to get an education, but I honestly find it really refreshing that parents like you exist that serve as a beacon of safety and understanding for your children during stressful times. You speak to your daughter so wonderfully.

Be proud of the parent you are and the child you have raised. As the younger and less selfish generations become the majority and these old, right-wing, money laundering politicians that care more about gun money than children die out, maybe one day we can get back to a point where we don’t have to get texts like these anymore.

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u/ConsciousWolf May 27 '22

Don't worry. If an actual shooting happens at their school, the police will be too busy apprehending and tasing parents and shitting themselves to go in and save your child.

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u/Beautiful_Melody4 May 27 '22

When I was in 5th grade someone wrote a bomb threat on a light poll near our school. They evacuated everyone to the football field, but didn't tell us what was going on. Then we heard sirens uo the street at the elementary school where my brother was a 3rd grader at the time. I was a mess, freaking out about what was happening and if my brother was hurt or in danger.

Turns out the bomb was a fake threat and a kid had fallen on the playground and gotten hurt at the elementary school at the same time coincidentally. But those 2 hours of fear are etched into my brain. I can't imagine what it would be like for kids who were actually in these shootings.

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u/NikoKida May 27 '22

Had to have an 11yo misspell recent just to try and sell that this is totally real guys.

There’s plenty of tragedies and aspects of the to talk about in the real world, you don’t have to make up forced conversations to sell it. Reality is enough

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u/1-anonymoose May 27 '22

I'm sad for every child in America feeling like this and I can't do anything to change it.

As a child who grew up in the UK, I didn't have this fear.

I left primary school the year of the Dunblane massacre in Scotland and within 2 WEEKS the law changed. 24 years later and we haven't had a mass shooting since.

You cannot say that gun control doesn't work because it does. Nothing will change until your country does.

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u/Upper-Sprinkles9911 May 27 '22

God damn, 11 year olds are texting now?

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u/Mental-Class-1998 May 27 '22

I’m glad your child was able to reach out to you! And actually feel that they can express their feelings to you.

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u/chickenisdelicious May 27 '22

Thank you! I try to engage with her as honestly and openly as possible, and I'm happy she does the same with me. Wish THIS didn't have to be the case, but still.

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u/tarducks203 May 27 '22

I'm sure your child wanted nothing more than to have their fear and anxiety be used for Internet points. Keep this shit to yourself

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u/CosmoKramerDO May 27 '22

Jesus Christ, are you a therapist or something? That kid is ELEVEN for fuck's sake. Keep it simple for your child. You goddamned maniac.

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u/Menotyou15 May 27 '22

Yep very believable good job purposely misspelling recent it actually got a lot of gullible idiots into giving you karma

Anyways, don't use recent tragic events to karma farm you sick bastard

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u/Wasseleri May 27 '22

This made me cry to read, only because I know how worried I was when my kids' school had a lockdown. Your poor kiddo 💔

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u/littlenicelady May 27 '22

Upgrade this from 'mildly' infuriating to 'WILDLY' infuriating 😔

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u/Single-Ad-6589 May 27 '22

You know, someone pointed out that pretty soon drills won't be effective because the shooters grew up on them, too, and know the protocols. And it chilled me to the absolute core.

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u/Imaginanation80 May 27 '22

Coming from a family that does not communicate much, it is really cool to see this back and forth between a parent and their child

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u/spam__likely May 29 '22

I have a similar text from my kid. He was scared and texted me while hiding in the cafeteria.

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u/gemorris9 May 27 '22

This screams karma farming BS to me.

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u/AllTheShiftingVibes May 27 '22

r/extremelyinfuriating in my opinion

why? because im extremely infuriated that kids like this have to be scared for their LIVES at school.

school. a “safe, secure” place.

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u/robertjneff2000 May 27 '22

he posted here to get a better response

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u/SecretDevilsAdvocate May 27 '22

Bruh 99% of everything is extremely infuriating here.

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u/custom_fish_69 May 27 '22

You are a good dad.

I’d be terrified to receive a message out of the blue like that

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u/Mewthredel May 27 '22

This is heartbreaking, not mildy infuriating. Damn.

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u/robertjneff2000 May 26 '22

Alex, I’ll take shit that didn’t happen for $800

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u/Chadwulf29 May 27 '22

Thank you. This doesn't look like a real conversation.

Even if it were, posting it to reddit for attention is pretty gross. Imagine if your child saw their conversation where they were feeling vulnerable and scared reaching out to their parent then being posted to reddit.

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u/Aromatic-Glove-2502 May 27 '22

This doesn’t belong on this sub at all, kinda wonder if it belongs on /thathappened

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