r/antiwork May 27 '22 Silver 4 Helpful 3 Wholesome 1

Posted this over at wallstreetbets, and they suggested I should post it here.

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u/Daggertooth71 May 27 '22 Silver

"It has been raining money on fools for too long"

YOU DON'T SAY

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u/DuncanIdahoPotatos May 27 '22

“Let them eat cake.”

— apparently Elon Musk

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u/edingerc May 27 '22

"Let them eat bitcoin"

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u/Shurigin May 28 '22

"Let them eat Dogecoin" - Elon Musk

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u/blueberryiswar May 27 '22

No. „It has been raining cake for too long” - Elon Musk. Who never had to work in his life for money.

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u/Thereisnopurpose12 May 27 '22

Can't wait for the day his shit stock crashes.

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u/Never_Free_Never_Me May 27 '22

Tesla can't get their autopilot where it needs to be to be the product differentiator in his market. The other companies are soon going to overtake his marketshare with superior production capacity. Also, his online antics are turning many against him and many are refusing to give Tesla their money. I used to be bull'ish on Tesla, but I've switched camps.

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u/Top-Fox-3171 May 27 '22

Can confirm that. I'll admit, for the past few years I thought "how cool would it be to own a Tesla?" Now I'm just sickened by that narcissistic asshat and I can 100% guarantee you I will not be buying an electric vehicle from them.

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u/vesperpepper May 27 '22

Imagine owning a Tesla, where you're a complete hostage for any parts or repairs. It's Apple / John Deere 2.0. But I'm sure they'll keep it affordable out of the goodness of their hearts, lol!

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u/potsandkettles May 27 '22 Take My Energy

Worked for Tesla. They stopped paying me after HR filed a bogus LOA on my behalf but said if I stopped showing up I'd be quitting. I quit a month later and never saw that money.

Besides the point. I did service support, talked to one woman who bought a spankin' new $160k model X and a week later the driver's seat broke to where she couldn't safely drive. Tesla had that car in the shop for over a year. She drove a car she had paid $160k for, for a week. And Tesla couldn't fix or replace her seat for over a YEAR. No one would talk to her, give her loaner vehicles, anything. It was fucked up calls like that all day long, interspersed with someone like Steven Spielberg calling to make an appointment for a new set of tires.

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u/vesperpepper May 27 '22

My brother came over to Tesla via Solar City and really hated his time working there, so I'm not surprised to hear another negative account.

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u/jeffsterlive May 27 '22

How hard is it to replace a seat? Crazy.

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u/potsandkettles May 27 '22

Why is it breaking after 1 week? She was a petite woman, she made that very clear.

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u/jeffsterlive May 27 '22

Quality control must be all over the place. I think my accord seat is finally “breaking” after 22 years and 200 something thousand miles. It rocks back and forth a bit but is still fine. 1 week is amazingly bad.

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u/GoodMorningMorticia May 28 '22

I watched a video of a car guru talking about why she would never own a Tesla. She walked inch by inch over that car and DRAGGED the subpar construction in every bit of the vehicle. It was stunning in its shade.

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u/pjr032 May 28 '22

Tesla quality control is absolute dogshit. Not surprising from a company that tries to be something they’re not. Other car companies have problems too, but good god It’s like Tesla isn’t even trying.

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u/coffeeskater May 28 '22

Not to be a nerd, but like, stupid easy. Assuming it's broken the same way 90% of car seats do, it's either off the rails or it's garbage. So it's either a 20-30 minutes fix, or you replace the whole seat which is literally unbolt old one, replace, put nuts back on tight. It's so simple a shop teacher could comfortably tell a 13 year old kid to do it and they'd be completely fine and think it's way too easy.

If it's off the rails you just need to realign it which isn't hard per say, but it's finicky and you waste alot of time trying to get it even. It's just one of those things that refuses to work with you no matter what you do.

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u/myceliumhustler May 28 '22

I would imagine there’s some electronic components involved with the Tesla in question which could be a lot costlier and harder to fix.

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u/potsandkettles May 28 '22

Bingo. It was entirely an electronic issue.

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u/mrchuckles5 May 27 '22

That was the biggest factor for my wife and I. One of the things we learned was that the insurance is nearly double and that is because the repair parts, when available, are crazy expensive. Couple this with the fact that Musk is turning into a narcissistic asshole we decided no thanks and bought a hybrid accord. I also agree that once the old school manufacturers go mainstream with their electrics they are going to eat Tesla for lunch.

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u/HispidaAtheris May 27 '22

This applies to nearly all EV's though, they have a lot of proprietary tech inside that only their own people are authorized to work or replace.

But what angers me about Teslas is that even the simple things, such as fixing a bent bender usually means replacing the whole thing with some OEM part that takes 3-6 weeks waiting and costing minimum 15k..

In comparison, on my old truck it was 400 bucks and two hours of mechanics work.

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u/Ok-Map4381 May 27 '22

I'm less worried about which technician does my engine maintenance, vs will they let me have basic parts like headlights. Last week someone did a smash and grab though the back window of my car. It sucked, but it was nice that the autoglass locations had fitting replacement glass on hand, and in less than 12 hours from when my window was broken there is no way to tell that happened to my car. I imagine the process would be much slower and more frustrating if I owned a Tesla.

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u/Natck May 27 '22 edited May 28 '22

I watch a YouTube channel that's just compilation of crashes captured on "Tesla cam" (or whatever they call the built-in camera system). They usually have a follow up from the submitter talking about how much the repairs cost and how long they took.

And a vast majority of the time even minor fender benders that are just cosmetic damage quickly get into the 5 digit price range and take a minimum of weeks - if not months - to repair.

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u/Silverking90 May 28 '22

I sold a tesla headlight on eBay and the guy installed it and Tesla shut his car off. Never sold another tesla part again after that

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u/PitchWrong May 27 '22

Bender Bending Rodriguez?

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u/Tinkerballsack May 27 '22

When it comes to Tesla ownership and the issues of which you speak, you just need to think positive. You might get locked inside one and burned alive before those aforementioned issues ever come to pass.

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u/closerocks May 27 '22

Have you looked at any modern car? Have a 2017 Chevy volt. My mechanic into a little bit of work on it but for the most part, I'm held hostage by the stealership. Anything goes wrong with electrics, I'm looking at least $1000. Independent mechanics could do a much less that but they can't get the information and can't get the parts.

In my perfect world, we would let car manufacturers sell directly to consumers and all the training and all the parts would be available to independent mechanics without prejudice.

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u/BattleNub89 May 27 '22

Ya the world is crazy now. It's one thing when right-to-repair was becoming an issue for small electronics, at least that was something companies could make up BS about, because not enough people understood what was happening. But now it's happening to farm equipment, large computers, and of course cars. And I think that is what's going to hopefully lead to enough outrage to push the right-to-repair movement further again.

Even if you don't go electric, the computer systems in cars are often not standardized, and are hell to get fixed even by the dealerships. It's ridiculous.

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u/Mingismungis May 27 '22

This is why I buy 20 year old vehicles. The only major electronics are probably the radio and power windows, neither of which make the car go from point A to point B.

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u/SlayerOfUAC May 27 '22

I would love to go back to older cars, but I live in Northeastern America, where rust will not let any vehicle live that long. You're lucky if you get ten years here. Several of my previous vehicles had to come to the end of their life from the underside rusting out. It sucked because their engines were still good. I miss my Caprice the most.

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u/desolation0 May 27 '22

A video on the efforts required to keep the original Roadster on the road.

https://youtu.be/4MzOPf4w8hQ

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u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep May 27 '22

It's like a bunch of MOPAR guys, but they all have money to kill.

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u/Create_Analytically May 27 '22

Yeah, I did the same but now I am just waiting to see what Toyota comes out with since they are finally throwing their hat in the ring

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u/LDCrow May 27 '22

Toyota has always built dependable cars. They may really come up with something amazing.

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u/Ok-Map4381 May 27 '22

And electric engines require far fewer moving parts to work, that Toyota dependably will last forever with EVs.

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u/Create_Analytically May 27 '22

That’s what I am hoping. I’ve driven a 2010 RAV4 for 8 years now and I wouldn’t trade it for anything.

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u/BlackCowboy72 May 27 '22

A couple years ago i wanted a tesla cuz I think electrics are cool and I don't want a BMW i3 or whatever, but now pretty much every company has electric or almost electric, I mean shit there's even a plug in prius

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u/Review_Empty May 27 '22

The only thing about Tesla that's nice right now is the fact the model y can be made in a 7 seater capacity. But if you're OK with 5 seats there are lots of other options. Hyundai has an electric vehicle that's about $20k cheaper than a Tesla and Ford has an electric mustang now that's about the same price and in my opinion is nicer looking than the Tesla. (my dad always had mustangs though so I just love them anyways) Tesla definitely isn't going to be unique or cool for much longer.

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u/jolsiphur May 27 '22

I just hate that the Mustang Mach-E was made into a Crossover/SUV. That's not a Mustang, that's just some derivative.

I hate that the current trend in cars is to turn some of the bigger names into SUVs and Crossovers instead of sports cars or sedans. Mitsubishi did the same with the Eclipse, it's an SUV now, you can also get a Toyota Corolla Cross, which is also just an SUV when Toyota already has the RAV-4 in basically the same size category.

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u/Jorganza May 27 '22

Yeah same. I used to see the Tesla dealerships and dreamt of owning one but now? Nah

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u/sniperhare May 27 '22

My boss had one and just sold it.

He had a 1k a month payment on it.

Before insurance.

He was paying as mush to rent an apartment as his car.

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u/The_Muznick May 27 '22

I was talking with a new hire where I work about Tesla and all it took was mentioning Elon's anti union stance to get her on the "oh now that I know that I have no desire to own a Tesla" train. People hate Elon Musk for so many reasons, I just can't stand anyone who has an anti union stance. It implies that if he could get away with it he would physically abuse his employees since he clearly has no problem exploiting them. I've also heard that there are a few metoo claims coming from some of his companies.

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u/rservello May 27 '22

In 2019 I was considering a Tesla. In 2020 he showed who he really was and decided I wouldn't give that piece of shit a penny. I bought a Hyundai EV.

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u/keto_brain May 27 '22

Exactly. Nearly every automaker is coming out with an EV, the Hummer EV is literally a Cybertruck destroyer. I'll give Tesla credit for putting EVs on the map but I don't think they will be a major contender in the next decade.

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u/carlse20 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

This is something one of my business school professors predicted years ago, that Tesla would be hugely successful as the best known ev…then the big established brands would catch up in product quality and Tesla would disappear because without autopilot (which he also predicted would take way longer than musk was saying it would) the only thing that differentiates it is that it’s more expensive. Which generally isn’t a differential that will win you customers in the end

Edit: “disappear” was a poor choice of words on my part. My professor wasn’t suggesting that it would go away as a corporate entity, just that it wouldn’t be a major player in terms of production or market share

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u/CasualEveryday May 27 '22

One big problem with tesla is that they have fought so hard not to hire in real talent in the auto production arena. After 10+ years they can't manage to produce vehicles in anywhere near the time that big manufacturers can or with anywhere near the quality.

This is what happens when a digital huckster tries to make a physical product. I've been rooting for tesla for years because EV popularity means real car companies will see the need and start making good ones. The boulder is already rolling down the hill now, tesla's days are numbered.

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u/carlse20 May 27 '22

Precisely, If you’re not wealthy you can’t afford a Tesla because they can’t produce them in high enough quantities to bring the price down. You know who can make an affordable ev? Ford and gm (you know, the guys who basically invented the concept of affordable personal vehicles). Honestly not surprising at all that it happened that way

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u/CasualEveryday May 27 '22

This is where Elon's background really shows through. He isn't concerned with revenue, he's concerned with stock price. That's why tesla is mostly snake oil. They aren't worth anywhere near the previous market cap and they are still heavily overvalued now.

The point was never to make an affordable EV, not since he took over the company. The point was to raise a ton of capital blow up the stock price. And it worked. I doubt a single model 3 has sold for base msrp, despite that promise being the foundation of their last 5 years stock boom.

Smoke and mirrors, but now that the big boys are playing with electricity, it doesn't matter anymore.

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u/carlse20 May 27 '22

Yeah and even if the production capacity was there it was always, to me, insane on its face that this one little new car company had a market cap of all the other car companies, some of which are over a century old, combined. I don’t understand how people were able to overlook that, hype or no hype. It totally defies logic

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u/Circle_K_Hole May 27 '22

Same here. EVs are amazing technology and I'm looking forward to getting one.

Musk's born again Republicanism has totally alienated me from the brand, and while I used to think "EV-Tesla" I've now done all kinds of research into EVs manufactured by larger car companies and have been really impressed with how far Ford in particular has come .

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u/Adventurous_Pin_344 May 27 '22

Not Ford, but I saw one of the new EV Kia's today at school drop off... I want one so badly now!!!

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u/surfeitofreason May 27 '22

My folks have a Kia and it is superb. Fans in the seats to keep your bum sweat free is a total win.

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u/jolsiphur May 27 '22

The new Hyundai Ioniq 5 is fucking beautiful and I want one.

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u/_Castillan_ May 27 '22

We have one. It's been fantastic.

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u/sir_sweatalot May 27 '22

I drive a Leaf. Mostly because they're so mass produced and cheap. Lots of car for your money. You don't impress anyone with it and it's boring as hell, but it does the job.

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u/The_Muznick May 27 '22

No need to impress anyone. The car that I bought I bought because it was the best gas economy I could afford. If I had an access to an EV charger at home and at work, I'd get one. Unfortunately the one at work is currently not accessible and my apartment complex has not set up EV chargers in the parking lot.

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u/rservello May 27 '22

I have a Hyundai Ioniq. Better than any tesla. It has Carplay/Android auto. It actually has buttons not a bunch of touch screen garbage and in 3 years it has never broken down or had a single issue. Oh and all the panels are perfectly aligned.

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u/Shirogayne-at-WF May 27 '22

It actually has buttons not a bunch of touch screen garbage

God, this. Tesla isn't the only one with touchscreen air conditioning but I fucking hate that. Gimme a knob to pull on.

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u/Gamebird8 May 27 '22

Toyota is finally getting into the All-Electric car business.

If they do what Toyota does, then their cars will be cheap, reliable, and easy to repair, the exact opposite of a Tesla.

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u/kirsion May 27 '22

Idk about cheap but probably relatively affordable compared to gas or hybrid alternatives

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u/Thereisnopurpose12 May 27 '22

Yeah the autopilot that he keeps talking about still isn't ready. Other car companies have started to enter the ev market and are in a much better position to make their vehicles affordable. His online shit did start to get annoying around that time he did an SNL skit 😂😂😂

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u/MrFuzzybagels May 27 '22

The F150 Lightning is not only the first EV that I’m legitimately interested in but it’s the only EV I would take over it’s i.c.e. counterpart. An affordable, full sized truck without the usual fuel economy issues? Fucking sign me up! Guarantee a bunch of other people who don’t normally like EVs feel the same.

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u/delocx May 27 '22

I'm thinking EV's in those heavier weight classes that are cheaper to operate while being more powerful thanks to the advantages of electric drivetrains are going to be sleeper hits in the coming years. Trucks and SUVs are already at the upper end for cost, so there's less price squeeze for sale price, and savings on fuel add up quicker. Cheaper EV cars seem much more challenging, but also much less in demand, at least in North America.

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u/MrFuzzybagels May 27 '22

100%, and the Lightning is the only one really in that affordable class right now as the Rivian and Hummer EV have pretty high starting prices (70k and 90k respectively), while the base Lighting starts at 40k

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u/GUI_Junkie May 27 '22

I really wanted to buy a Tesla even before Model 3 … but I'ma going to pass.

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u/TheNimbrod May 27 '22

The quality of the cars is also quite meh.

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u/FormatException May 27 '22

I read this in the voice of super mario , " but I'ma going to pass."

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u/rservello May 27 '22

And he's arrested for accounting fraud. I've been predicting for years that Tesla is the next Enron.

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u/Antilles34 May 27 '22

Tesla has been nosediving for some time now. It was hugely overvalued anyway and I can't say I am sorry about it. Many reasons to dislike that company.

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u/jmc323 May 27 '22

I couldn't ever even get past the fact that a for profit capitalist corporation had the fucking nerve to co-opt Tesla's name. Fucking disrespectful as fuck to Tesla, his legacy doesn't deserve that shit.

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u/starchild812 May 27 '22

I mean, let's not forget that Elon Musk did not found Tesla! He invested money in Telsa about a year after it was founded and then bought the right to call himself the founder--the two actual founders had to go to court to be allowed to refer to themselves as co-founders. Which again, very funny and ironic thing to happen to a company named after Tesla of all people.

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u/Antilles34 May 27 '22

Agree completely. It's clearly something he would never have approved of.

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u/PartyClock May 27 '22

I hope he starves to death. I'm not being hyperbolic and I know he reads reddit comments. I hope Elon starves to death after losing every fucking cent.

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u/CasualEveryday May 27 '22

It's down 45% year to date.

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u/Thereisnopurpose12 May 27 '22

We want more!!!!

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u/crowwarden May 27 '22 Tree Hug Rocket Like

Elon Musk thinks he's the first to do everything. His cult of a fandom is mostly to blame though - they do everything he says and adopt the same opinions. The same thing happened with Jordan Peterson and his views on gender. It allowed all these people to openly share homophobic and misogynist sentiments with the backing of these "intellectuals". It's where all the alt right propaganda started affecting the younger generation of men (a minority of men, but musk and peterson have a disproportionately male fanbase).

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u/EquivalentSnap May 27 '22

Exactly. It all goes to their head and I’m glad Tesla stock is tanking. Hope they fire Elon his big mouth and tweets are self destructive

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u/UnlimitedAdvice May 27 '22

People will still buy it up... Including himself to create the illusion that it's worth something.

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u/royaldunlin Petite bourgeoisie May 27 '22

We shouldn't have to work hard to live good.

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u/A-Blind-Seer May 27 '22

Funny how the rich are always stoked for a recession to lower prices to snag shit up

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u/Uxo90 May 27 '22

Yeah, I can’t wait for the day his ego is dented. Please let Tesla stocks crash!!

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u/BizzarreCoyote May 27 '22

I'll bet $20 that when Tesla rolls over and dies, he'll blame the common consumer and still walk away a billionaire. Meanwhile all the people working at Tesla will be jobless.

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u/AzafTazarden May 27 '22

And I'll bet that if I get out when it's raining, I will get wet.

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u/MadnessBomber May 27 '22 Silver

Raining money on fools... ... Didn't he just describe himself or am I missing something here?

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u/rservello May 27 '22

Reminds me of when he said

"I hate when people confuse education with intelligence, you can have a bachelor's degree and still be an idiot"

He has a bachelors degree.

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u/rvmiv May 27 '22

I know there's r/trumpcriticizestrump why isn't there a r/muskcriticizesmusk ?

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u/rservello May 27 '22

For real. He probably has enough to make it work.

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u/thelostcow May 27 '22

Make it yourself! Be the change you want to see in the world.

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u/rvmiv May 27 '22

I am far to lazy to create and maintain that even if I knew how

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u/RickDerris1980 May 27 '22

…I don’t think you’re missing anything. The dude has zero social awareness.

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u/CupcakeTrick2999 May 27 '22

he has enough social awareness that his disciples will follow no matter he goes

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u/CanuckPanda lazy and proud May 27 '22

No, the sycophants have no awareness either.

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u/StunningBruja222 May 27 '22

I literally had a bunch of these attack me on A different platform for saying that he's a rich predator, after the flight attendant scandal.

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u/CanuckPanda lazy and proud May 27 '22

The tweet floating around about some dick-rider being flabbergasted that the victim wasn't thanking Elon for flipping his wrinkly little dick out in front of her.

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u/calmaplane May 27 '22

Thats called money. We call that money.

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u/ExploratoryCucumber May 27 '22

Man born with silver spoon in mouth: Why don't you just work harder?

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u/meowmixwitch May 27 '22

Right? We should all just ask our dads for emeralds.

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u/Hitchhikerdave May 27 '22

The biggest lesson his father gave him is how to exploit poor people and not feel a thing. That is actually the bigger part of sucess than having a capital.

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u/maliciouspot May 27 '22

Classic projection

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u/ChingChangChui May 27 '22

TIL that I’m no fool (not a single dollar has been rained on me)

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u/Someoneoverthere42 May 27 '22

He's mad that the poors got a tiny, tiny bit of relief during a global plague

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u/an0nymite May 27 '22

Or that 'fools' like myself and the millions that lost their shirts (and in many cases their businesses, mental health, and a lot more besides) weren't deserving of what we had at the pandemic's onset. That we were never deserving of our places in society.

That the frail, tilted system is the choice of the multitude, and fuck them for failing.

I'm beyond disgusted. Give him Mars, just get that void of humanity away from what's left of ours.

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u/reddit_at_work22 May 27 '22

So he's upset people got 1200 bucks two goddamn years ago? ludicrous!

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u/Someoneoverthere42 May 27 '22

Oh, come on, how much money do poor people actually need? They'd just waste the money on drugs and luxuries like...food, medicine, and heat.

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u/EquivalentSnap May 27 '22

While he spread lies about covid and made bank on Tesla stock and government money for spaceX

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u/Evil_Mini_Cake May 27 '22

The guy whose business was built on subsidies sure talks a big game.

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u/calmaplane May 27 '22

His lack of self awareness is nothing short of spectacular.

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u/PuggyPaddie May 27 '22

Exactly. Just when I thought I couldnt hate this fucker more.

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u/Party-Writer9068 May 27 '22

he surprises everyone by exceeding his limits of being hatable.

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u/Canaan_James May 27 '22

Pretty sure he got most of the money

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u/Confident_Bridge9811 May 27 '22

it certainly rained on his fool ass

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u/Warm_Doublet May 27 '22

How many billions in subsidies did his companies receive from the government?

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u/Miserygut May 27 '22

At least $7 Billion.

Tesla and SpaceX have received more than $7 billion in government contracts alone and billions more in tax breaks, loans and other subsidies, an analysis by Grid found. In recent years, Tesla has sold at least $6 billion worth of government-backed electric vehicle credits, Grid found. These sales have twice in recent years made the difference between the company posting a profit instead of a loss, according to an analysis by Trefis, a financial data firm.

https://www.grid.news/story/technology/2022/04/30/elon-musk-hates-the-government-his-companies-love-it/

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u/Warm_Doublet May 27 '22

Thanks. $7,000,000,000 vs. $600 stimulus checks. Asshole.

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u/PresentationNew5976 May 27 '22 Silver All-Seeing Upvote

Its not that people dont believe in working hard. Its that we are collectively finally learning that working hard is utterly pointless.

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u/CaptainBayouBilly May 27 '22

Working hard as an employee has no tangible benefit over working as little as possible. In fact, under capitalism this is the correct strategy.

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u/The_Galvinizer May 27 '22 Take My Energy

The harder you work, the more work they give you. Same paycheck, though, so yeah no shit no one wants to work.

Isn't the argument against Communism supposed to be that no one will work hard when everyone is paid the same? Definitely sounds like capitalism is fixing that problem...

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u/ChopsticksImmortal May 27 '22

At my work we the jobs we complete for customers are billed based on "units".

Supposedly we get more money at the end of a quarter for completing more units. However, what we got last quarter was around $300 bonus. Each unit is charged around $140 by the company to the customer. And personally i can do about 4 units per hour. 4 x 8 x 5 = 160 per week. But the minimum needed is 130 per week.

So doing bonus units beyond our minimum is pointless, because we are not incentivized at all to do so. We get basically no return on the extra work we do.

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u/Ergomann May 27 '22

Literally my work. We have a quota we need to reach daily and my manager complains no one strives to reach higher. I’m like “okay, why don’t you pay the employees more for the extra work they’re doing?” “Oh no I don’t want to do that” wellll.. so now I just do bare minimum and I’m much more happy. If they want us to do extra work then they need to pay accordingly.

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u/ChopsticksImmortal May 27 '22

Yeah. Every performance reviews its all like "Lets get those numbers up!"

Had a coworker that gamed the system to do around 170 units in a week for 5 weeks because he wanted to see how managment would react. He got a 2% raise and told to "try to reach for 200!" Basically, we all ended up with the same salary. He had negotiated well at the beginning and got a higher starting salary, only to be shafted later. Coworkers who had been there for years also ended up with the same salary as new hires.

So now we all do the bare minimum and leave 2-4 hours early from work every day, which works for us. We challenge each other to set new records for leaving earlier than each other. But its no wonder nobody stays for much more than 2-4 years. They end up hiring new grads, training them, and then they leave for better companies.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

The best argument. Because it’s stupid on both sides of the coin. Democracy in workplace would be a big thing for our democratic countries. What happened to taking control, when we outsource all our domestic work over seas for a fraction of the wages.

But idk I’m not brain rotted

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u/InkTide May 27 '22

Worker owned co-ops. Managers, executives, administrators, owners, etc. are an economically parasitic disease that perpetuates by giving itself messiah complexes. The people doing the managing should be the most informed about the job (this is, of course, the people doing the job).

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u/AzafTazarden May 27 '22

under capitalism this is the correct strategy

This. Why is it ok for employers to prioritize money over effort, but it's the opposite for employees?

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u/CaptainBayouBilly May 27 '22

They do this regardless. In game theory it is absurd to not do the same.

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u/Snaggled-Sabre-Tooth May 27 '22

Even still, we are hardly not working. Most people are fed up with this bullshit and have been/still are working 50-60 hours a week!

So, sorry mister Elon, we have had TOO much freetime, we'll make sure not to work less than cosistent 12/6s from now on.

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u/Jeff1737 May 27 '22

No working hard on a job is pointless. The hardest working person I've ever met by far lived in a suburu and had stopped wearing shoes to cut costs. He was also an ultramarathon runner. He was the hardest working person I've ever met but sure as he'll didn't work hard at a job

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u/Blackulla May 27 '22

Why work hard for 8hrs a day now we’ve found out we can accomplish the same of work from home while doing other things.

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u/Due-Estate-3816 May 27 '22

Lol at all the idiot geriatrics that think working at home means we're being lazy. I worked in an office before we transitioned to telework, people were way lazier and less productive in the office.

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u/Radiant-Pay1315 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Hope you all caught that money that was raining down on us! Sounds like those increments of $600 for a total of $1,800 has gone to our heads! Technically I didn't receive any of this downpour, but Musk is a billionaire genius, so I must have just missed my chance to stop working hard like the rest of you!

Edit: I now understand the first part is probably referring to companies and not the masses, but it's the second paragraph that is more triggering and seems to relate to the masses. It seems Mr. Musk had two separate thoughts and beliefs and combined them into one which I might have misinterpreted in the first paragraph, but I still don't agree with the second statement, especially combined with the first. My belief is that Mr. Musk doesn't like that workers aren't happy with work conditions and wages, and are leveraging our right to work, and he associates with our lack of work ethic. I believe it's easy to do that when you are already rich and see yourself as superior.

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u/TheMonsterWithinYou May 27 '22

Sad part is…the companies that got stimulus money…also took our stimulus money….money raining down on fools indeed.

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u/Radiant-Pay1315 May 27 '22

Very true! It's like, "hey, people get more money from the government, we need to increase our prices to take advantage!"

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u/mitchanium May 27 '22

Cash? The joke's on you!

I was able to retire with all the hand claps I received 🤣

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u/L3XANDR0 May 27 '22

Thank you for your service!!!

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u/CrowJ- May 27 '22

No, that "stay-at-home stuff" has taught people they can do the same work from home (maybe even more efficiently), they get to eat healthier, they get to spend more time with their families, the list goes on. Instead, Elon and other greedy, out-of-touch, holier-than-thou assholes wants those people to commute to-and-from work for three hours a day, eat one shitty lunch a day bought from the nearest convenience store (and without pay ofc), seeing their family for maybe, I don't know, once a week?

People like Elon are one of the biggest reasons why world is - or at least feels like - such a shitty place.

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u/TheFormless0ne May 27 '22 edited May 28 '22

Musk hid behind the "internet persona" to look cool for so long but he's the same as everyone else. Fuck that guy, seriously. Single handed manipulated crypto/ stocks, and cares more about culture war and his erect penis than anything he can help with his position of power.

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u/Circle_K_Hole May 27 '22

Between the absurd hot takes on just about everything the penis part gets overlooked.

The guy's personal life is that he likes to fuck young women. He's got like 9 kids from 4 women and when they age out he moves on. That's not a father that's a sperm doner.

And now he's ranting like a raving lunatic about how the rest of us need to have more kids.

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u/AnneOfGreenGayBulls May 27 '22

He has so many kids he's starting to give them serial numbers instead of names

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u/A-Blind-Seer May 27 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Well yeah. If we don't have the kids, who will he exploit?

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u/Objective_Magazine_3 May 27 '22

Looking at the current money in my bank account I dont think I could exist myself let alone bring one more human on this planet.

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u/Difficult-Brick6763 May 27 '22

Nobody who ever worked for the guy, or knew anyone who did, thought he was anything other than a raging asshole. Absolute nightmare boss, not just disrespectful and slave-driver but micromanages with really bad technical decisions that then have to be reversed later at enormous cost.

There's a reason the EV industry is full of ex-Tesla people. Nobody wants to stay.

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u/Nruggia May 27 '22

The culture war is all about his money. He supported the Dems when they were subsidizing his industry, but now that some of the Dems are talking about a wealth tax he all of sudden is changing his tune claiming to support the Republicans claiming it's because of culture war issues. Really he has just calculated that a potential wealth tax is more costly to him then the benefit he gets from the subsidies.

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u/dankinator87 May 27 '22

Yeah he never really had an issue with the culture war until a few months ago. I never really thought about it

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u/thehorriblefruitloop May 27 '22

Also conveniently changing sides right as SA allegations hit...

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u/werdznstuff May 27 '22

He never, not once, looked cool.

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u/Ghstfce May 27 '22

Right? Dude has always been a huge dork. Not to mention a huge asshole. I never understood why people idolize him.

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u/LadyRarity May 27 '22

hard to admit you got suckered. Some people need an escape strategy and pretending people like musk are 5d chess geniuses takes about the effort i would want to put into a reddit comment saving face.

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u/werdznstuff May 27 '22

This is it right here. He is a giant Con Artist who has tricked so many into believing he's Einstein mixed with Tony Stark that it would hurt them personally to admit that he's just an asshole born on third base who is good at investing and pumping stocks.

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u/TheFormless0ne May 27 '22

I feel that, It was more in reference to his posturing on roe jogan and him being a space "pioneer". Instead he doesnt do anything about the toxic racism in his tesla factories, switching to republicunt because of his scandal and because he absolutely HATES unions. He would rather side with "religious zealotry" than the side of the working class. Should tell you allllll you ever need to know that hes a hack beyond measure.

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u/Lucius-Halthier May 27 '22

Singlehandedly manipulated his own stock too, that persona one day tweeted “why is tesla valued so high? Lol.” And the stock got kneecapped. I guarantee it was so that people would freak out, sell their shares, then he scooped them up at a lower price.

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u/TheBandero May 27 '22

My god this guy is a piece of shit. His adulation is a mystery to me

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u/DigitalRoman486 May 27 '22

I used to like the guy because he seemed like someone who was genuinely trying to push the world forward with technology and AI while having the resources to do it but in the last few years every comment or tweet has become such stereotypical evil billionaire shit I can't anymore

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u/TheBandero May 27 '22

It’s not even brilliant. My boomer aunt posts the same shit on Facebook and no one creams their pants about it

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u/DigitalRoman486 May 27 '22

Yeah it's what I like to call Tech Boomer

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u/Akareim May 27 '22

More and more people are understanding how evil he is. I'm kind of mad that I used to think he was a genuinely good guy and here for the world. He decides to become are real piece of shit instead of becoming someone to look up to.

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u/TheBandero May 27 '22

I’m like you I used to think he was a force for good. Suffice to say I have changed my mind since

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u/heftymann May 27 '22

It is good he is finally showing his true colors. He is a piece of shit billionaire just like the rest. He has no true innovation of his own either. Just invested in the right stuff. People need to see him for what he truly is. And that is an exploiter of common folk.

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u/Sharp-Ad4389 May 27 '22

Remember stock market crashes are GREAT for the uber-wealthy, because they have the assets to buy low.

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u/SnipesCC May 27 '22

Though all his wealth is in speculation about how his company will do in the future. Much as I hate Jeff Bezos, his company actually does stuff and is a huge part of the economy. Tesla has about 3% of the market share for vehicles in the US, yet is valued at 3 times what Toyota is, with about 12% of market share.

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u/Pyranze May 27 '22

Even Jeff Bezos is just skimming money off the real economy: Amazon doesn't actually produce much except packaging, it just takes a tidy cut of the profits from other businesses that need to sell through them because they have a monopoly on online shopping.

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u/Soccham May 27 '22

AWS is Amazon's real money maker at this point, not amazon.com.

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u/SnipesCC May 27 '22

Unfortunately, it's also the only one that's basically unavoidable.

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u/SuboptimalButHopeful May 27 '22

He makes the case every day that there should be no billionaires in the world. I'm thinking personal wealth should be capped at, oh, $100,000,000. That's still a crazy fucking number.

If you pile up more than that, you pay the excess in taxes that year and get an "I won capitalism" lapel pin. Let these fucks get together and impress each other with coats covered in those pins, like medals on North Korean generals.

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u/HorribleTrashPerson May 27 '22

LMAO, billionaire thinking he working hard, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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u/Advi0001 May 27 '22

It's funny because I saw another article where a billionaire went to the ISS and weren't expected to work so hard.

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u/LetGo_n_LetDarwin starbucks frappe sipping millennial May 27 '22

I saw that too-fucking wimps.

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u/Rave_Lord_Neato May 27 '22

He didn't work hard but the people who died in his families mines sure did

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u/ABurritoSnake May 27 '22

Don't you know, taking your clients to go play golf and treating them to hour+ long lunches and dinners is hard work!

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u/Stevie_Steve-O May 27 '22

What a shit stain. Eat the rich!

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u/holtpj May 27 '22

The son of a emerald mine owner who was born a millionaire, went to private schools and has NEVER created anything. Just used daddy's money to buy existing companies... He's never worked a day in his life and couldn't even design a Tesla tire if he had too.

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u/F0ssilS4uce May 27 '22

"apartheid" emerald mine owner

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u/holtpj May 27 '22

thank you, I forgot the most important part... this is why he has such a low opinion of people who work for him. His family was used to not having to pay people at all.

He is a garbage person who looks like a rejected Muppet character. I can't understand why Wallstreet Bro wannabes have such a hard on for him.

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u/jgrangers2 May 27 '22

Because he's rich. I don't think you have to look any further. Wall Street is the ultimate "make money without actually doing anything productive" profession.

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u/CaptainBayouBilly May 27 '22

They want to be rich and removed from the consequences of their behavior

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u/mecca37 at work May 27 '22

I enjoy a dude who inherited his wealth from his slave owning parents talking about people not knowing what it's like to work hard...

Just a giant piece of shit.

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u/EVJoe May 27 '22

Ah yes, so many "tricked" into believing that their worth as a human is innate and that they deserve to live, be housed, fed and clothed regardless of their productive output.

"Good thing" they will have this "awakening" to the "reality" that they are wage-slaving peons worth only what Musk can exploit out of them.

I'll be so "glad" when people are no longer being "tricked". It's so "cruel".

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u/rservello May 27 '22

Speaking of money raining on fools. He's the perfect example. Would love to see him go bankrupt.

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u/hillinthemtns May 27 '22

This person is a complete tower of prolapsed anuses stacked on top of one another, held together with feces for mortar.

I hope the last ten years of his life are spent in relative obscurity while he flails and throws tantrums hoping for attention but finding no value in his monetary wealth. Alone, cold, and disrespected by all of his zealots because he can no longer curry favor or has any relevance.

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u/Smile_Space May 27 '22

I love that he still thinks Covid money from over a year ago is apparently still making people lazy and not the fact jobs don't pay enough to live.

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u/wtfffr44 May 27 '22

He talks like trump now?

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u/PunishedMatador May 27 '22

👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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u/Ogg_Vordus May 27 '22

Oh Christ, he's angling for a presidential run isn't he

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u/lulzyasfackadack May 27 '22

he's African. He can never be President.

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u/Intellectual-Dumbass May 27 '22 Evil Cackle

iT wOrKeD fOr ObAmA!

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u/wishingwellington May 27 '22

I never type "lol" but this really did make me laugh out loud.

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u/Nervous_Channel5290 May 27 '22

What does he actually do, like seriously. All he ever does is tweet about how people need to work harder and how no one wants to work anymore. But but... he sits on twitter all day making childish, cringy tweets. He talks about his '16 hour' work days, does that just consist of pissing around on twitter then?

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u/CaptainBayouBilly May 27 '22

He wants more exploitation. If he can work to convince suckers to toil more, he has more wealth and leisure. His work surrounds making others think working hard benefits themselves.

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u/Bind_Moggled May 27 '22

He buys other people’s ideas and pretends that they’re his.

This is what capitalists consider “genius”.

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u/BitOCrumpet May 27 '22

Val at Walmart works harder in a week than Elon in his whole life.

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u/Thin_Low_2578 May 27 '22

You too should win the sperm lottery and have a dad that owns an emerald mine. It's that simple, folks.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Oil5734 May 27 '22

Its so gratifying that Musk is finally showing his true colors and all the sycophants can see that he's just the same rich douche as the rest of them. Maybe now the endless cameos and ball fondling will stop for this fucking dweeb.

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u/beefstrip May 27 '22

This piece of shit

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u/at_least_ill_learn May 27 '22

I hate that this toolbag is the best source we have for non-cellular mobile internet. He's such a douchecanoe.

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u/Funnyguythatcomments May 27 '22

I should’ve posted these nuts on yo mouth 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀