r/HolUp Jan 21 '22 Silver 1 Helpful 4 Wholesome 2

Marvel has some explaining to do holup

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u/ProductivityCanSuckI Jan 21 '22

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u/SUNAWAN Jan 21 '22

*Laughs in mouse voice

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u/Mynameisaarav Jan 21 '22

Let me guess...Mickey mouse?

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u/prizim1 Jan 21 '22

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u/Ghoul96 Jan 21 '22

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u/Big-cheese108 Jan 21 '22

Both owned by disney

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u/straight_outta_bed Jan 21 '22

Disney playing real life monopoly.

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u/VeryHighLander Jan 21 '22

Shit just look at all the film they released lately. They all have the same posters. From marvel to Aladdin

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u/antoinebugleboy Jan 21 '22

Did they own the MCU when The Avengers was being made?

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u/ditlit11134 Jan 21 '22

Yeah they did, MCU was bought in 2009

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u/MyersVandalay Jan 21 '22

Disney has a pretty big track record of cross plagerizing their own content. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MvlipN-Nww

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u/Quanalack Jan 21 '22 Silver

Doctor who did it first with the Daleks!

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u/dhoae Jan 21 '22

I knew it! I just said that It’s a reused plot device and I’m pretty sure doctor who did it haha. It’s just such a convenient way to get rid of the swarm you just brought in haha.

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u/Stumonchu Jan 21 '22

Enders Game, the formic war

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u/jmegaru Jan 21 '22

That movie was lit, and a cool twist at the end.

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u/Klub-pengu-grl Jan 22 '22

EXTERMINATE!!!!

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u/mahniguh Jan 21 '22

Could be wrong, because I've never read them, but maybe it was in the comics and P&B made the movie as a hommage

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u/Suspicious_Top4251 madlad Jan 21 '22 edited Jan 21 '22

That's the creator of P&B Edit P&F

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u/Jobloshus Jan 21 '22

Phineas and Berb?

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u/Suspicious_Top4251 madlad Jan 21 '22

Shit what have I done

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u/jessehechtcreative Jan 22 '22

Peanut and Butter....

Jelly is no longer with us... Poor otters...

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u/Obeesus Jan 21 '22

But did he write the episode?

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u/Suspicious_Top4251 madlad Jan 21 '22

Chances are no but he probably helped

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u/cubei Jan 21 '22

It's a movie

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u/dhoae Jan 21 '22

It’s more likely that It’s such a simple concept that they both happened to use it. It’s not the first time the idea has been used for remote controlled enemies to be portaled in only for them all to be deactivated once the portal is closed. It’s basically an easy way to clean up the massive army they just unleashed without having to show the characters killing every single one. It’s been done many times.

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u/TheeExoGenesauce Jan 21 '22 edited Jan 21 '22

I mean Community in a paintball episode had the Dean do the elevator scene from Capt America before that movie came out

Edit: I got the order of events wrong

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u/GordonMcG13 Jan 21 '22

It came out a year after winter soldier

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u/TheeExoGenesauce Jan 21 '22

You’re definitely right I had my sequence of events out of order

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u/Confident-Change-257 Jan 22 '22

The Russo brothers directed a lot of episodes of Community. It’s no coincidence Dean Pelton ended up at MIT.

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u/puncmunc Jan 21 '22

Die Hard with Vengeance had an elevator scene like that before either of them.

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u/Smurf_Cherries Jan 21 '22

Isn't it also the plot of Independence Day? I mean I bet it's the plot of pretty much every alien invasion. And substitute robots for aliens.

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u/Nitro114 Jan 21 '22

star wars: phantom menace just without a portal

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u/HurlingFruit Jan 21 '22

War of the Worlds, 1898.

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u/dhoae Jan 21 '22

I can’t remember that movie as well but I’m pretty sure that’s how it goes down.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '22

Ender's game is a close second.

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u/dhoae Jan 21 '22

Enders game is different though. At least in the book. The mothership was hidden among regular ships apparently, although I read it so long ago that I don’t even remember them specifying that. Great book. I’ve yet to see the movie.

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u/Unlucky-Pomegranate3 Jan 21 '22

Everything is borrowed from something else. The concept of destroying a mothership and killing all the alien troops isn’t new either, that’s how Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum heroically saved Earth in Independence Day.

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u/GoodShark Jan 21 '22

I ain't hear no fat lady.

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u/Unlucky-Pomegranate3 Jan 21 '22

Welcome to Erf.

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u/Eldudeareno217 Jan 21 '22

If you ever want to feel old the "sequel" came out 5 years ago.

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u/dhoae Jan 21 '22

Ope. Found it. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMothership

In hindsight that’s an obvious name.

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u/dhoae Jan 21 '22

Yep. And pretty sure doctor who does this too. I bet it’s on TV tropes but I don’t know what to call it.

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u/Skollundhati Jan 21 '22

I misread historically instead of heroically, and now im disappointed lol

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u/Butt_fux_admins Jan 21 '22

I thought when you killed the mothership a bunch of smaller versions of the mothership would spawn in

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u/Significant-Ad-341 Jan 21 '22

Also how they win in Ender's Game

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u/Bedoyairv Jan 22 '22

Lol see: Star Wars episode 1 Phantom Menace

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u/TheBigTimer039 Jan 21 '22

Caesar didn’t borrow Rome

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u/JediNeo101 Jan 21 '22

The Matrix: Return to the source and kill the machines.

Star Wars: blow up the death star all tie fighters stop fighting.

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u/gonzalbo87 Jan 21 '22

Besides the rear guard, fighter pilots tend to retreat from a battle when their base gets destroyed. The droid army in Phantom Menace is more analogous.

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u/MFalcon95 Jan 21 '22

You heard it here folk, phineas and ferb started The Avengers that summer vacation

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u/Needleroozer Jan 21 '22

Hell of a summer vacation. I'll never forget that year.

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u/AwesomeManatee Jan 22 '22

There's genuinely an episode where they join the Avengers.

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u/rebri Jan 21 '22

Disney plagiarizing Disney? Is this the recipe for perpetual energy?

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u/Hasky620 Jan 21 '22

But marvel avengers guaranteed entered production before this one did.

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u/Needleroozer Jan 21 '22

Animation takes a while to draw, you know.

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u/Hasky620 Jan 21 '22

And movies take a long time to film. But this movie was based off a long running comic book series, not a TV show that only started a few years prior.

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u/Needleroozer Jan 21 '22

There is nothing like this attack in the comic book series.

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u/Hasky620 Jan 21 '22

And since the movie was already half filmed before the Phineas and Ferb movie came out, it means that the event in the avengers movie had nothing to do with it.

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u/BuchoTheSecond Jan 21 '22

Congrats you both have no original ideas

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u/Needleroozer Jan 21 '22

First really good comment in this thread. Congratulations on seeing the truth at the center of it all.

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u/BuchoTheSecond Jan 22 '22

Honestly. You can’t brag about doing something first if it’s a bland and cliche movie trope lmao

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u/Longjumping_Panda_87 Jan 21 '22

Yes because they wrote, shot, edited and everything else for avengers in a year before releasing it.

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u/SidScam10 Jan 21 '22

Doof was really ahead of his time.

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u/GiaNell Jan 21 '22

(Hands on hips) 🤨Well?

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u/Cultural_Detective_3 Jan 21 '22

Calm down, Karen.

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u/Cultural_Detective_3 Jan 21 '22

Damn. It was a joke about the hand on the hip. Not about the video. Settle down.

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u/JohnMarstonSucks Jan 21 '22

So, basically he's suggesting that Joss Whedon saw Phineas and Ferb: Across the 2nd Dimension, decided that it was the perfect idea to steal, and then whipped up The Avengers to be ready for theatrical release 8 months later.

Or is it more likely that it's a really common trope.

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u/TinfoilCamera Jan 21 '22

"We did it a year earlier!"

... production on The Avengers began in 2008. The first script for it was in ~2007. It's almost like giant films with thousands of effects shots don't get made in a day or something...

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u/artham_a Jan 21 '22

But marvel had it in their lore earlier

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u/pandogart Jan 21 '22

I don't recall that exact battle happening in any comics prior. Either way it's obviously a coincidence.

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u/dhoae Jan 21 '22 edited Jan 21 '22

It’s a funny joke but The Avengers was done shooting before the Phineas and Ferb movie even came out. Also the whole “massive army comes through a portal and is deactivated once the portal is closed” thing is not exactly original. It’s a plot device to sidestep the issue of killing all the minions once the main crisis is adverted.

It’s a documented trope. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMothership

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '22

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u/dhoae Jan 21 '22

Oh yeah. Thats a blast from the past.

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u/PessimistPryme Jan 21 '22

Disney needs to sue Disney for that

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u/CypressT2020 Jan 21 '22

Simpson's Did It !

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u/TerminalThiccness Jan 21 '22

yeah, guy totally came up with that on his own, and it's not in any way the most overused sci-fi trope in existence.

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u/Revil0_o Jan 21 '22

not exactly a novel concept...

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u/AkkerKid Jan 21 '22

Hadn't Dr. Who done it a bunch of times with the Daleks?

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u/spelunker93 Jan 21 '22

The script for avengers was written before that came out.

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u/Valeria22475 Jan 22 '22

And others did it before you, bitch shut up.

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u/kjm6351 Jan 22 '22

Watch some people actually take this seriously lmao

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u/durgadas Jan 21 '22

Disney is SO used to using public copyrights they just assume they can use any existing ideas for themselves at any time.

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u/SlippySlappy420 Jan 21 '22

I mean, Disney owns them both so... 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/Azureflamedemon Jan 21 '22

Disney has been reusing scenes since it's inception. Maximize profits while minimizing work, nothing new.

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u/hacksawjimthuggin511 Jan 21 '22

Marvel fans in here getting sweaty trying to make up excuses lol

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u/bazhvn Jan 21 '22

Man detailing generic 3rd arc final battle scene:

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u/Icy_Reply7147 Jan 21 '22

2D movies are easier to make than live action, CGI films. I'm sure the script for Avengers was made before the script of P&F

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u/SomeRedditGuySensei Jan 22 '22

The marvel movies are uncreative and boring we knew this

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u/ritchiey Jan 21 '22

Also, Dredd (2012) is a lesser remake of The Raid (2011).

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u/SmokesInMyPocket Jan 21 '22

Yeah, cos it's the least imaginative and unoriginal fucking tropey sci-fi plot in existence?

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u/MuhFreedoms_ Jan 21 '22

This thought isn't novel in the slightest.

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u/Psyk0l0ge Jan 21 '22

I just wandered what would have happen if they just exploded the stark tower...

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u/Needleroozer Jan 21 '22

Then Iron Man would have fallen from the sky. Everything else would have just continued as normal.

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u/1776_lojack Jan 21 '22

I bet his next video he talks about Star Wars and P&F.

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u/ginger694201 Jan 21 '22

Kids movie copied by and adult cartoon

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u/mrstruong Jan 21 '22

Disney owns both of them, so... FFS, Disney owns everything. Hell, I'm probably owned by Disney at this point.

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u/netherlegion0325 Jan 21 '22

Am I the only one who was waiting for some sort of sex joke?

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u/OccultWitchHunt Jan 21 '22

Yea but both are owned by disney so what are they gonna do? Sue themselves?

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u/DrDrPhil Jan 21 '22

Imagine thinking it doesn’t take more than one year to create a movie.

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u/Enigma614 Jan 21 '22

Sponsored by Disney

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u/nuggetdogg Jan 21 '22

Nobody:

Every 2010 action movie: skyportal go brrrrr

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u/Andro451 Jan 21 '22

There aren’t the only ones:

The phantom menace (sort of)

Dr. Who (17 times over)

Ender’s game

And so…so many more.

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u/Needleroozer Jan 21 '22

Independence Day.

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u/chodubhagat69420 Jan 21 '22

That description of chitauris will make them attack us in real

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u/Top-Hedgehog-4919 Jan 21 '22

But who did it better?😱🤯

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u/xMcSwaggx Jan 21 '22

They're both owned by Disney so 🤷

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u/Brent_Fox Jan 21 '22

Dang that was such a good episode.

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u/Needleroozer Jan 21 '22

They're both movies.

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u/andio76 Jan 21 '22

Goofy: Gawsh, Mickey.....Whut'll we do now!?!

MM: HaHa..ha.....well Goofy....Get Donald and let's ride...

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u/dd9107 Jan 21 '22

Also "did it a year before". My guess is that avengers took for sure longer than a year in the making. So one could argue p&f stole from them before the movie was even released...

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u/Needleroozer Jan 21 '22

I guarantee the Phineas and Ferb movie took more than a year to make as well.

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u/dd9107 Jan 21 '22

Agreed. Would still be interesting finding out who of the two wrote their story first...

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u/Needleroozer Jan 21 '22

You probably have to go back to the Doctor Who episode that they both stole it from.

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u/-Meleoron- Jan 21 '22

Both of them on what?

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u/THE404Mercy Jan 21 '22

Is there a sub or even niche for perfectly cut sponsors and ads? Because that cut away before he could promote Disney Pus was hilarious

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u/Unhappy_Skys Jan 21 '22

Hold up wait a minute something ain’t right

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u/gabochosk Jan 21 '22

Buy they had a Hulk.

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u/KingKaychi Jan 21 '22

Shots fired

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u/SpeedBoy24 Jan 22 '22

i thought this was going to be a sex comparison

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u/Mr_Agueybana Jan 22 '22

So this never happened in the Marvel comics?

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u/HeyMikeyBellamy Jan 22 '22

They’re both Disney

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u/Mean-Substance-8795 Jan 22 '22

Avengers, I know what we're going to do today.

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u/indubadiblyy Jan 22 '22

Batman : soul of the dragon (jan 2021)

Shang-chi and the legend of the 10 rings ( sept 2021)

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u/Vli37 Jan 22 '22

Come on now!

We already know all the good ideas were stolen off someone else to make profit 🤦‍♂️

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u/supercheese69 Jan 22 '22

Yeah because Phineas and Ferb happened away before marvel

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u/RSCrystal Jan 22 '22

But comics

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u/wanwanya Jan 22 '22

I finally realise my mind is just sick

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u/DeadEnd1700 Jan 22 '22

Fans of both movies competing over who did the most generic invasion plot first 🤡

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u/yourdad300 Jan 21 '22

is it just me that i find avengers movies so fucking cringe? especially when the black widow comes on the screen

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u/teasnothot Jan 21 '22

Marvel in a nutshell

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u/RB3_AMG Jan 21 '22

Wait a minute...

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u/LunaticMS Jan 21 '22

Every time someone starts describing stuff in hyper-specific terms like "a hole in the sky" and "metallic gray army" my brain immediately goes "*sigh* ok what is the other media this technically fits".

Oh it's about a PERSON who goes to a BIG PLACE with lots of BAD GUYS and TAKES THEM DOWN EASILY and then in the end the GOOD GUYS WIN. Oh, you thought I was talking about Star Wars The Force Awakens? Psh, that's what I wanted you to think. I was describing... DIE HARD.

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u/RasberryBlitz Jan 21 '22

Phineas and Ferb is better lmao

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u/hebrew-israelite Jan 21 '22

Flat earth guess they breaking threw the firmament that's only spoken of in the Bible