r/AbruptChaos
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u/That-Entrepreneur793
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Feeding wildlife, what could go wrong?
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u/battletoasta
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We are lucky cats cannot use guns.
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u/nathan_yt_ May 27 '22 •
So how did you die? Oh I didn’t pet my cat and got shot immediately
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u/moonshineTheleocat May 27 '22
Are you sure you didn't fall for the belly trap
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u/imanpearl May 27 '22
I had a belly rub requested of me, and was promptly shot for following the order
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u/Incredi-flow May 27 '22
I believe I’ve read that cats only expose their bellies to show you that they trust you. Actually touching the belly is like betraying that trust.
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u/BlitzMalefitz May 27 '22
Next cat that exposes their belly I’m going to do a maniacal laugh and say “You fell for my trap” then proceed to pet da belly.
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u/Jimmy-TinkerBull May 27 '22
If they didn't wanted to be belly rubbed they shouldn't consist of fluffy stuff. It's really their own fault. /s
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u/lenorajoy May 28 '22
Did you see the way that cat was dressed? She was asking for it!
This is not my actual opinion of women, please don’t murder me.
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u/NolieMali May 27 '22
My cat likes to flop down in front of me when I'm walking by, and show me her belly. She actually likes it to be rubbed tho. One day I gotta catch her on video doing this flop down.
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u/kookerpie May 27 '22
One of my cats does that. But he will run ahead of me and violently flop wherever he estimates I will stop walking. If he's wrong, he does it over and over again. Very strange looking
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u/Realistic_Airport_46 May 27 '22
There's something to be said for only patting their back and such when they do this, but mostly the cats I've met love belly rubs. Or smushing your face into it.
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u/Radiant_Obligation_3 May 27 '22
Mine likes belly pets. Only rule is don't mess up her fur, she works too hard to look that good and gets mega offended. She's a foundling though, so rules are different
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u/Justout133 May 27 '22
How about you? Well I did pet my cat, but I did it slightly incorrectly and got shot.
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u/Momentarmknm May 27 '22
Alternately, I did pet my cat, and it appeared to be enjoying it immensely, but I kept petting it for one nanosecond too long.
Bang, no warning shots.
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u/SeeTheFence May 27 '22
Also lucky squirrels don’t weigh a buck-forty
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u/profmcstabbins May 27 '22
My dad always said it was hummingbirds. If they were enormous we'd all be fucked
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u/Kossooth May 27 '22
My good friend is deathly afraid of hummingbirds due to a large scale assault they initiated when he was a child. Never forget…
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u/CaptainKate757 May 27 '22
Imagine if eagles were large enough to carry an adult human?
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u/dedasdude May 27 '22
We are lucky that house cats are size they are.
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May 27 '22
Cat gun, you're genius! Setting up a meeting with the Smith and Wesson folks to get this done
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u/PeddoPedro May 27 '22
That’s such a hilarious comment, thanks for the laugh. I’m going to end this Reddit session in too and get back to my exam, thank you battletoasta
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u/Hurtfulfriend0 May 27 '22
100% thought that the camera gut was going to get bit by a rabied fox
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u/TheCenterOfEnnui May 27 '22 •
Lucky they didn't.
People who feed wildlife, just stop. You're actually hurting more than you're helping them.
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u/EmetalEX May 27 '22
Mind explaining why? Even if it's their "normal" food like raw meat? Do they get too used to get fed and stop hunting?
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u/SoSaidTheSped May 27 '22 •
They learn to approach people, which is dangerous for us and them.
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u/PeteLangosta May 27 '22
Anyway there's a big difference between hand feeding ana nimal and disposing some food in the wild for them to eat.
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u/Archery100 May 27 '22
Even then, just leaving food is dangerous, there's a reason why salt licks are banned in some states
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u/PeteLangosta May 27 '22
Okay but can you give me reasons? Im not from the states and dont think feeding wildlife is banned here.
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u/Archery100 May 27 '22
So here in upstate NY, salt licks are banned because deer go absolutely NUTS for salt. Once they find out, they will all flock to the salt and it'll damage their feeding habits. It's also an unfair advantage for hunting as well.
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u/TroubadourCeol May 27 '22
A fox started coming by my uncle's cabin in the mountains to get scraps from him. He named it Peanut. Couple days later he found Peanut dead in the willows alongside the nearby road after having been struck by a car. I don't know how big a factor making that fox more comfortable around humans was in its death, but I can't help but think it might not have been hanging around the road if it hadn't been going to my uncle's cabin.
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u/superrober May 27 '22
Idk i woul Guess foxes see Cars as something different than humans
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u/WilfordBrimleysBitch May 27 '22
I don’t think they’re implying foxes see cars as equal to humans. I think it’s more like the fox wouldn’t be hanging around on the road if it wasn’t trying to get to the cabin.
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u/i_hatehumans May 27 '22
There's a story about a wolf who befriended some people in a mountain town, people loved him and would bring him treats. One day he came across someone who was unfamiliar with him and was shot dead. The town put up a statue in his honour. So yeah, animals tend to die around us
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u/TheCenterOfEnnui May 27 '22
First of all, wildlife shouldn't be eating anything that people provide. It's not their natural food.
But the main reason is that you're teaching them that interactions with people are OK, which draws more of them in. Once more wildlife get drawn in, many things are likely to happen. One is disease transmission and/or bites and attacks. Another is that they become pests and will likely have to be rounded up and euthanized so they don't spread disease. Also, if they become dependent on people feeding them, they won't find their own food, which means they stop learning how to do that.
Wild animals don't need our help and they're not cute pets that should be fed. It's ok to observe them but I watched this idiot feeding this critter potato chips with a mild sense of disgust.
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u/Ornery-Creme-2442 May 27 '22
While I do agree with a lot of your points. Your forgetting something major, ... the destruction of habitat. We've destroyed and taken over such vast amounts of habitat. Causing many animal species to struggle. We can say, no let them find food only on their own. But if there's barely anything left because of us, they'll simply perish.
While I'm not telling people to do something like this, always keep distance. Supplementary feeding however can help certain species, it's smart to always do proper research first. Helping is not limited to actual food. Even something like planting native plants that can be food or attract food for animals help also.
Example I have an hedgehog in our yard sometimes, and we give it food, but you can still see a variety food sources in its feces. Indicating it has not stopped eating and following it's natural instincts. Our natural green garden is ofcourse also a source for insects.
The idea that all animals will become "too dependent" is not that well based. Even some animals kept as pets continue natural instincts. Various studies have shown a varied ranged in wild VS fed food ratio in wild animals diet.
Most wild animals have already been forced into human spaces. Making garden and outdoor spaces a little more useful and diverse would help a great deal. I have animals in my yard daily but they still don't think of our interaction as "OK". They just see it as part of a habitat where there's food available fairly consistently.
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u/GooGooGaDont May 27 '22
"This is my meal ticket, interloper!"
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u/vallaugh May 27 '22
I had the same thought.
The cat is thinking that this is their human, that fox better find someone else.
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u/Ironman_2026 May 27 '22
Only thing the cats are afraid of are those damn cucumbers in those videos. Everything else don't mean shit to them
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u/Reaverx218 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22
Snakes they do not like snakes.
Edit: I'm just gonna throw this out I understand a lot of cats will fuck a snake up. But I don't think your cat would try and fuck up a bigger snake. Like one the size of a cucumber in circumference.
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u/drexlr May 27 '22
that doesn’t mean they are afraid of them. snakes are being decimated in places like thailand and australia because of domestic cats
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u/tehherb May 27 '22
can confirm, when i was a kid my cat killed 2 snakes in my backyard. pretty lucky he didn't get bitten they were very venomous snakes.
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u/Aurorainthesky May 27 '22
Cats rarely get bitten by snakes, they are simply too fast. If you watch videos of cats Vs snakes, it's insane. The snake doesn't stand a chance. Dogs are way more likely to get bitten.
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u/AskMeIfImAMagician May 27 '22
It is a myth that the cucumber thing is related to snakes. Cats tend to be very aware of their surroundings, so adding something new startles them. But this myth will never die, ever.
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u/Reaverx218 May 27 '22
Oh I know that. I was just saying snakes and cats don't get along in my experience.
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u/caniuserealname May 27 '22
And that's true, I don't really know why the other guy was getting uppity, Cats aggressive behavior is even an adapted mimicry of a snake like appearance. Snake features are literally what they're hard coded to see as dangerous.
Also for what it's worth the connection between cats and cucumbers isn't a "myth" so much as it was a potential explanation posited by a number of animal behaviour experts when the videos started going viral. There have been other explanations also give than disagree, but calling any definitively correct is the most wrong someone can be in this discussion, ironically.
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u/SpadeGrenade May 27 '22
Cats tend to be very aware of their surroundings, so adding something new startles them.
I just got a new Traeger the other week and put it right outside my back door. My cat was terrified to go outside for days because she had no idea what it was.
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u/AkhilVijendra May 27 '22
Absolutely wrong! Cats fuck up snakes. You are wrong both ways that cat's don't like snakes and that cucumbers are seen as snakes by cats.
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u/runninandruni May 27 '22
Not what I expected at all lol
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u/imanpearl May 27 '22
Yeah I thought the fox was going to chaotically demand more and thenCAT
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u/Flaky_Explanation May 27 '22
Fox: enjoying a snack as calmly as it can
Cat: REEEEEEEEEEE
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u/stedgyson May 27 '22
I wondered what seemed to be the fuck there, was like pretty sure Fox can't miaow
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u/Sensitive_Pair_4671 May 27 '22
All I could think about ⬆️
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u/TransIlana May 27 '22
What game is this from?
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u/nativenorwegian May 27 '22
Ghost of Tsushima.
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u/Sensitive_Pair_4671 May 27 '22
It’s an absolutely gorgeous game… and you can give foxes belly rubs
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u/oopsiedaisy2019 May 27 '22
Lmao I’ve seen a video that was almost exactly like this, and the cameraman ended up getting chomped square in the hand by the fox. I thought this was that video and it was definitely a surprise when it did not end how I remembered, lol.
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u/pedestrianpinniped May 27 '22
Don't feed foxes yeesh. At best you are training a natural rabies reservoirs to come into the areas domestic pets and such romp around and increasing risks and at at worst it is going to approach someone else who calls animal control and then the fox gets trapped and euthanized cause wild foxes pretty much only ever approach people if they are rabid.
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u/TrinalRogue May 27 '22
I mean, if this is the UK the fox is very unlikely to have rabies. That said, that level of snow would cripple the country so probably not.
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u/Wolfblood-is-here May 27 '22
Also in the UK fox populations are actually more dense in populated areas than rural areas.
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u/pixie_pie May 27 '22
They were speaking either, Croatian, Serbian or Bosnian. So, maybe not indeed.
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u/Ecleptomania May 28 '22
Still Europe and Europe has next to no known cases of Rabies.
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u/putin_on_a_ritz96 May 27 '22
Yeah the woman is speaking Russian in the video so I assumed it was over there somewhere
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u/orvn May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22
No, not Russian (native speaker here), but definitely an Eastern European language.
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u/lifelink May 27 '22 edited May 31 '22
What if you live in a country that has foxes and has eradicated rabies (last two cases being 1990 and 1987).
They are an introduced pest here but in saying that there are so many we are never going to get rid of them.
On a side note, when do you actually give up fighting an invasive species? At what point do you go "we tried everything but we can't fix it and never will"
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u/Axros May 27 '22
On the last question, to be fair, if we absolutely want to, we can annihilate any species. The problem becomes that some weapons we don't have a very clear picture of as to what may happen when we use it.
For example, there are various lab proofs of using genetic engineering to basically have mosquitoes delete themselves, primarily considered in African regions where Malaria kills so many people. If we can wipe out mosquitoes, then I'd say anything is a viable target.
Of course, the obvious problem is that we have very little control over that method once deployed. It's pretty difficult to wipe out, in a controlled fashion, anything that is about rodent size or smaller, due to how easy it is for them to hide from us.
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u/polarbearsarereal May 27 '22
Also were not sure what might happen if we delete a whole species of something
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u/Meal-Ready May 27 '22
Don't feed wildlife.
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u/3Strides May 27 '22
Don’t take their Territory
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u/RutraNickers May 27 '22
do not colonize their lands
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u/MMBADBOI May 27 '22
Do not pass Go
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u/Ahyde203 May 27 '22
Do not collect $200
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u/merithunter May 27 '22
Unless your ass has ballooned to the size of a blimp and you currently reside floating somewhere over the North Atlantic, wherever you're currently being stupid from was once the "territory" of many animals.
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u/AscheValeria May 27 '22
I'm honestly realistically curious how you would suggest this idea would ever work. Were humans supposed to magic themselves to space before doing any evolving as a species?
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u/Trump_dad May 27 '22
Well, that's not how I expected it to go wrong...
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u/RL203 May 27 '22
Yeah, I was thinking the next tasty morsel was going to be that guy's index finger.
Who new Garfield was just waiting in the wings!
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u/Winterheart84 May 27 '22
The cat saved his hand. My ex got hospitalized for over a week due to a fox bite. Their mouths are so full of bacteria it can really fuck you up.
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u/Derpen97 May 27 '22
I suppose your cat didn't want any competition!
You should post this to r/unexpected, I figure it'll do well there.
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u/lui-fert May 27 '22
That's how you get rabies, most of the cases reported are related to feeding wildlife, foxes are natural reservoirs
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u/fragMerchant May 27 '22
Not cool. My gf is a zookeeper and she says that this will teach the poor animal not to be scared of human kind, and that is dangerous for the animal, someone could hurt it, or perceive it as a threat or a nuisance and harm the poor creature
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May 27 '22
Cat is protecting the human from a bad decision. Don’t mess around with wildlife like this. A fox that will come up to you usually has something wrong with it.
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u/RoElementz May 27 '22
This really isn't a what could go wrong for feeding wild life. The fox was very gentle.
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u/ScottaHemi May 27 '22
don't feed the fox... you're familiarizing him with people which makes him or her an easy target for hunting.
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u/Jiyoh81 May 27 '22
Well that was wholesome until the end of video Cats are asshole but we love them that way
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u/Affectionate-Newt889 May 27 '22
You know if it was a protective dog everyone would be going “Good boi, protective of its owner” but since its a cat everyone just assumes its a dick.
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u/NoG00dUsernamesLeft May 27 '22
No pet owner should have their pet unleashed in a situation like this. Outdoor cats and unleashed dogs are huge problems and both results would be bad
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u/cmdr_chen May 27 '22
“That’s MY FOOD, you literal son of a bitch…” - cat, circa 2020 something, after bodyslam a wild fox.
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